Heads up, Top pair, ez question

Submitted by : MadJukes

Full Tilt Poker Game #18283058373: Table Rowdy (heads up) - $0.25/$0.50 - No Limit Hold'em - 5:20:02 ET - 2010/02/08
Seat 1: avalancherider ($86.85)
Seat 2: Hero ($104.95)
avalancherider posts the small blind of $0.25
Hero posts the big blind of $0.50
The button is in seat #1

Holecards
Dealt to Hero
avalancherider raises to $1.50
Hero calls $1

Flop (Pot : $3.00)

   
Hero checks
avalancherider bets $3
Hero calls $3

Turn (Pot : $9.00)

   
Hero checks
avalancherider bets $9
Hero calls $9

River (Pot : $27.00)

   
Hero

maybe you should consider check/shoving river then

or bet/3bet river

but yes, c/f is the standard

and calling turn looks good here

however you should be folding preflop

Check shove was the other thing I was considering. But if he had bet a flush draw 2 streets and hit, I'd feel like a massive idiot donking off an effective 160bb stack.

On February 08 2010 07:08 exalted wrote: but yes, c/f is the standard and calling turn looks good here however you should be folding preflop

I would only be folding J8 preflop against the tightest of players.

I think the most important thing about this hand is his bet sizing. In general players will barrel smaller and bet bigger with made hands. However this varies between different players. Some people will bet pot with Ax on these boards and continue to fire. It also depends on what his perception of you is. You really need to know what these potsize bets mean. HU is all about gameflow and reading the player and not necessarily the cards. I have seen some interesting videos of good HU players playing without being able to see their cards and still manage to show profit.

As played I think you have to c/f river. Really sucks. Also folding turn makes no sense, you have picked up a gutshot aswell as top pair. Your hand is more than likely ahead at this point.

Saying that, i do not like calling J8o pre oop in HU.

I'd be very inclined to check call against a LAG villain here because the ace is the ultimate scarecard and he should bluff it 100% of the time and slow down with his value range a decent amount.

Here give the history this is a check fold

And yeah, we are deep and playing this hand will suck and be very marginal unless he is very weak postflop

your opponent is incompetent
instachkf

turn fold is idiotic because you aren't raising, because he's incompetent, meaning that you have no way to measure if it would be for value or for FE. if raising is not an option, fold is 100% not.

Fold preflop.

Check/fold river.

Stop playing HU you degen lol.

On February 08 2010 16:47 edzwoo wrote: Fold preflop. Check/fold river. Stop playing HU you degen lol.

+1

enjoy your swings sir

why are you check/calling top pair with flush and straight draws on the board?

On February 08 2010 23:36 superfashion wrote: why are you check/calling top pair with flush and straight draws on the board?

why would he wnat to go broke with that hand?
this is hu dude its not becaue their is a drawy board that he has a draw
-.-

superfashion, if I raised somewhere and got shoved on, I don't think I can make the call with top pair weak kicker. This way I wanted to take down the pot when draws miss and check/call it down, check/fold if draws hit so he doesn't get any value from his draws.

You should be folding river all day, you're never good.
Only thing you beat is a naked bluff. Most of the draws hit that river. IF he isn't drawing but has a J of somesort, you're still screwed.

Check fold or bet fold. He isnt raising that river with anything you beat. I think only thing you beat is a worse J or a 10. And i'm not sure a 10 calls a river bet here. So im inclined to C/f as his valu betting range on river doesnt really include many J or 10 in my opinion.

Hi sabulous =)

Hi, so what happened on river ? Hopefully you took the pot. Also Very nice post in Hand of the week. Congrats.

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I'm happy with the way I played it though.

And for the HotW, his line made no sense when I considered the lines he's taken so far. If he had a queen, he'd slow down on river, if not turn, because flush draw hit, a jack wouldn't fire 3 barrels, and he wouldn't be playing a flush like so. The only thing that made sense was a Q7/J7/22 (since he would have 4-bet me with QQ/JJ) or air and given his last few hands I thought air was much more likely.

And hm, I think I'll add that description to the hand i posted ;P