raising flop to protect my hand or ?

No historie with Vilain so no read. Hes new at the table.

Should I raise this flop bet to protect my hand against 2 overcards ?

Submitted by : XDsCrazy

PokerStars Game #39329858892: Holdem No Limit ($0.10/$0.25 USD) - 2010/02/06 13:48:14 ET
Table Anahita III 6-max Seat #4 is the button
Seat 1: GambiTTxx ($25 in chips)
Seat 2: Urgefan10 ($25.60 in chips)
Seat 4: Hero ($16.05 in chips)
Seat 5: Wayagroove ($25 in chips)
Seat 6: esel-roy ($59.90 in chips)
Wayagroove: posts small blind $0.10
esel-roy: posts big blind $0.25
NuahK: sits out

Holecards
Dealt to Hero
GambiTTxx: folds
Urgefan10: raises $0.75 to $1
Hero: calls $1
Wayagroove: folds
esel-roy: folds

Flop (Pot : $2.35)

   
Urgefan10: bets $1.25
Hero: raises $1.70 to $2.95
Urgefan10: raises $4.80 to $7.75

buy in full
also shove

no idea who villain is, calling is fine. Villain will keep valueing worse hands if board stays dry. Raising here is also ok i guess, but you're stacking off if you do.

I normally buy in for full but instead of having max buyin clicked I had other ammount and 15$ . but yea beside that point

You dont want to see a A/K/Q/J/club, so i think raising and getting it in is the best, esp w/ a 15$ stack

You dont honestly think someone is going to get it allin with worse than TT do you?

On February 06 2010 21:33 NewbSaibot wrote: You dont honestly think someone is going to get it allin with worse than TT do you?

I agree.
I dont feel THAT comfertable stacking here with a full stack.
kinda tough spot actually imo... I guess stacking off is still the best play...

reason to flat TT pre ip is to deny opponents the luxury of firing with impunity.

since you are disturbed by the reraise, this opponent does not fit the assigned profile.

if you rewind the hand and flat, i think you will find that the rest of the hand goes exactly as you had hoped it would.

On February 06 2010 21:33 NewbSaibot wrote: You dont honestly think someone is going to get it allin with worse than TT do you?

I think its more likely than usual since OP has bought in short, villain should give him less respect.

On February 06 2010 21:33 NewbSaibot wrote: You dont honestly think someone is going to get it allin with worse than TT do you?

i hope this is a joke

1) consider 3betting TT against the cutoff raiser. You def dont want to be flat calling here 100% of the time
2) raise closer to pot on the flop.

Your raising for value here. And this is like THE perfect flop to make a raise in position on the flop for value with a hand like TT. Your value range is most weighted against draws, so theres no sense in making almost a min raise that makes it super easy for him to play. For me, it makes the hand alot easier to play (removes paranoia that he was just induced by a weak bet-size)

3) I think if you work out the possible combos, he can have wayyy more hands that your flipping with than you are crushed against.
He can have JJ+ (24) and I guess 33 (3)

or he can have a ton of draw type of hands that will get it in on the flop. Any Ax Kx Qx Jx suited hand, A ton of suited connector type of hands will do this, and since hes raising from the cutoff theres alot of those that he can have.

not to mention mid pairs that probably 3b here a decent amount, cause he might think you are bluff raising cause theres really not much you can have on the flop//tons of draws u can have.

hmm you know, if you think about it...he does this with mid pairs like 77-99 alottt of the time...

By calling preflop, you cant have QQ-AA ever. And you don't do this 100% of the time with JJ and even TT lets assume.

So your raise is repping alotttt of draws compared to made hands (77-TT types, 33). because of this he might be happy to ship mid pairs against ur reraise

Directly shove flop, people will look at your stack at call with a high

Buy in full.
You have.. what..60-some bb? I mean, ... when you raised the flop, what were you expecting?
Did you want that guy to fold so you can let out a sigh of relief saying, "whew, my tens were good after all :D"?

Get it in. And try to think before you act, eh?
And buy in for full.

Thanks you for telling me to buy in for full and not reading any answer I might have give prior to ur answer.

On February 07 2010 19:50 XDsCrazy wrote: Thanks you for telling me to buy in for full and not reading any answer I might have give prior to ur answer.

edit: I don't know if this was meant to be smart or grateful, I don't understand the context of this said quote so I'll just shush.

roflll he still hasn't read ittt

On February 07 2010 17:40 LemOn[5thF] wrote: Directly shove flop, people will look at your stack at call with a high

this

its exactly what id do if i was villain.

shove just cause you're short but you're probably crushed or flipping here anyway.

as playing raising here to protect your hand is fucking terrible cause you're either way behind or slightly ahead if u do get called/get it all in. and ur folding out any hands that are gonna bluff turn cards.

i wouldnt say terrible, it can't be bad to turn TT into a crappy range and get it in with a highly probable ex-showdown advantage.