NL200 line check

villain is unknown. i havent played with him before, just know that hes playing a bunch of tables.

what do you think about my line here? raise turn? bet river bigger? i bet the river smallish to get a crying call from Ax or something.

Submitted by : joLin

Full Tilt Poker Game #18197727726: Table Scared - $1/$2 - No Limit Hold'em - 6:16:14 ET - 2010/02/05
Seat 1: Hero ($200)
Seat 2: JohnnyStecch1no ($62)
Seat 3: yuckymonkey ($216.20)
Seat 4: YOUFOLDAA ($213.45)
Seat 5: Heigl6 ($229)
Seat 6: Cisko77 ($147.65)
Seat 7: 9I_Be3yH4uk ($216.35)
Seat 8: SlavaSVK ($194)
Seat 9: Bankir1987 ($228.60)
JohnnyStecch1no posts the small blind of $1
yuckymonkey posts the big blind of $2
The button is in seat #1

Holecards
Dealt to Hero
YOUFOLDAA folds
Heigl6 folds
Cisko77 folds
9I_Be3yH4uk folds
SlavaSVK folds
Bankir1987 raises to $6
Hero calls $6
JohnnyStecch1no folds
JohnnyStecch1no adds $1
yuckymonkey folds

Flop (Pot : $15.00)

   
Bankir1987 bets $10
Hero has 15 seconds left to act
Hero has requested TIME
Hero calls $10

Turn (Pot : $35.00)

   
Bankir1987 has 15 seconds left to act
Bankir1987 bets $22
Hero calls $22

River (Pot : $79.00)

   
Bankir1987 checks
Hero has 15 seconds left to act
Hero has requested TIME
Hero bets $40
Bankir1987 raises to $190.60, and is all in
Hero has 15 seconds left to act
Hero has requested TIME
Hero folds
Hero adds $78
Uncalled bet of $150.60 returned to Bankir1987
Bankir1987 mucks
Bankir1987 wins the pot ($156)

Summary
Total pot $159 | Rake $3
Board:
Seat 1: Hero (button) folded on the River
Seat 2: JohnnyStecch1no (small blind) folded before the Flop
Seat 3: yuckymonkey (big blind) folded before the Flop
Seat 4: YOUFOLDAA didn't bet (folded)
Seat 5: Heigl6 didn't bet (folded)
Seat 6: Cisko77 didn't bet (folded)
Seat 7: 9I_Be3yH4uk didn't bet (folded)
Seat 8: SlavaSVK didn't bet (folded)
Seat 9: Bankir1987 collected ($156), mucked

u made a bet that induces a raise when a backdoor flush comes and folded to a shove vs a unknown
wtf
I dont get what u thinking

re-thinking it now...
meh..
idk

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im starting to also think a turn raise is good since it should be pretty hard for me to have a straight here.

and yeah, raise turn...
I dont think calling is bad either if you think he will most likely fold his big aces on the turn if you raise and will try to value bet thinly at the river if you just call turn
his c/r at the river sucks for u though

the point of raising turn is to make draws call and sometimes a stubborn big ace that dont believe you for the 5
the draws that calls the turn are backdoored flushdraws and boat draws
since its so hard for him to put you on a five I think raising turn would be optimal

Def raise the turn and once you bet the river, especially this small you gotta call. It doesnt make a ton of sense for him to go for a river c/r with the flush anyways.

Raise turn and charge his draw. Then after he calls and shoves the club river just fold.

Would a flush try to check-raise on the river?

After firing 2 barrels (assuming c-bet and firing for draw on turn), would it make sense for him to check river after he's made his draw when you could easily check an ace back on the river? I would think the flush would almost certainly valuebet river...doesn't this line look more like he's trying to represent a 5 or flush? Your hand is a perfect bluff catcher.

ok thanks.

would make this hand so much easier to just raise the turn and you'd prob be more +ev. maybe not vs some retarded agro players that'll just fire away regardless. then call/call is better but usually it's prob safe to assume that a turn raise is the finer play.

if we raise turn, i assume we're stacking off and if he has 56 then w/e?

id call unless i knew the guy was tight, he cant think ur bet/calling range is that big and ur checking range is big

On February 05 2010 10:00 MadJukes wrote: Would a flush try to check-raise on the river? After firing 2 barrels (assuming c-bet and firing for draw on turn), would it make sense for him to check river after he's made his draw when you could easily check an ace back on the river? I would think the flush would almost certainly valuebet river...doesn't this line look more like he's trying to represent a 5 or flush? Your hand is a perfect bluff catcher.

This.

Unless he knows nearly 100% you're going to bet the river, he's going to be betting for value if he makes his flush. It makes absolutely no sense to check OOP if he has a flush because if you don't bet, he misses a ton of value.