Should I Bet or Check Turn?

No stats, what should I do on the turn here? If I bet am I getting value out of jacks or worse since the pot's already so big thus my turn bet would have to be pretty big as well? Am I ever getting called by worse here if I bet?

Submitted by : Jas0n

Full Tilt Poker Game #18098264766: Table Mercury - $0.25/$0.50 - No Limit Hold'em - 14:17:59 ET - 2010/02/01
Seat 1: Americano55 ($73.80)
Seat 2: MadMantiz ($26.15)
Seat 3: I sevenfold I ($23.05)
Seat 4: GaragePunk ($101.05)
Seat 5: Faridar ($53.95)
Seat 6: r090676 ($222.15)
Seat 7: MvdP ($50.70)
Seat 8: j_g_b_999 ($71.20)
Seat 9: Hero ($50.25)
I sevenfold I posts the small blind of $0.25
GaragePunk posts the big blind of $0.50
The button is in seat #2

Holecards
Dealt to Hero
Faridar folds
r090676 has 8 seconds left to act
r090676 folds
MvdP raises to $1.75
j_g_b_999 calls $1.75
Hero raises to $6
Americano55 folds
MadMantiz folds
I sevenfold I folds
GaragePunk folds
MvdP folds
j_g_b_999 calls $4.25

Flop (Pot : $14.50)

   
j_g_b_999 checks
Hero bets $8.50
j_g_b_999 calls $8.50

Turn (Pot : $31.50)

   
j_g_b_999 checks
Hero

depends on how tight your image is, if you've been seen to value mid pair good kicker or top pair on a pair'd board etc etc etc, then turn bet is viable. it's a squeezed pot so villain can be willing to look u up with mid'sh pairs to jj/kk. ionno if u should b/c or b/f to a check raise cuz i don't know villain, and that's the thing...

I don't have an image as far as I know, this is rush poker.

bet, check, potsize/or shove the river. methinks.

bet half and shove river
this is b/c i'm assuming most ppl's 3b calling range will be made hands (preflop pairs) more often than not

edit: as soon as i posted i realized shoving might be thin on the river, but i would definitely get in one more value bet either on the turn or the river for sure. in this case bet maybe a little more than half since you'd only bet once to get more value when he calls the one time.

Seems like the perfect turn to VB...

this is ether b/f turn, and check river- or check turn and bet/call river. u def need 1 more bet...
I think turn is better time to bet cuz u could get called by 88/99 etc. and it's better to bet now before a cooler comes (overcard or a diamond).

I would never bet-shove here...

I was hoping to see advice from the LP regs by now, as I could see myself wondering the right line to take too... I mean, you're playing in the dark vs an unknown. AFAIK you dont really have much choice but to check turn. I know it sucks, but what else can you do? I mean yea players might keep peeling with a hand like JJ just because they dont think you'd necessarily play AQ like this, and they always tend to forget about hands like AA/KK. The shitty thing is, lots of players flat multiple preflop raises with hands like KQ and QJ, and they are definitely calling this flop. If he has JJ or worse, the turn is going to freeze him anyway, and if he's slowplaying well then you pot controlled he'll value bet the river and you can curse how bad you run and call.

newsaibot, if villain has 99-JJ, don't u think betting turn instead of river is better?
I mean, any T,J,K,A are bad cards cuz they either make us lose the hand, or lose an additional bet if we're ahead, cuz he won't call the river.
and if he has a Q it doesnt matter if u bet or check turn really, cuz I guess ur not folding if u check turn and the river comes a blank and he bets- so u lost the same amount as u would have by bet-folding turn.

why not b/f turn then?

Well we want to get to showdown badly with a hand like AA. The question is if its any good or not. Villain is drawing to 2 outs to beat us with 99-JJ, which isnt likely, so we dont have to worry about losing unless we're already beat. I mean a lot of players probably call the flop and probably turn too with 99-JJ, but do they call the river? Calling a donkbet on the river is gross, along with getting check-raised allin or value towning ourselves. We just dont have enough information to know if this fish will pay off with worse hands, and he doesnt have enough info whether we have a queen or not. I mean I dont know really, I'm in the same boat as OP. But at least by checking the turn we can pot control some and not hate ourselves when the river brings bad news.

hmm

prob check, and for for significant value on a lot of rivers, I think going for 3 streets on that turn is kinda optimistic in a full ring game

What Tom said. The most ideal hand we are getting value from is from a TT-JJ type of hand, but if there's a spot to get value from those hands, it's probably the river since we should look weaker and villain can see showdown after. It's a stretch to assume we're stacking JJ here.

If we make a bet, we almost certainly have to fold to a shove even if we're getting great pot odds; I think the odds of our opponent jamming worse are pretty much non-existent unless he's a total nutcase. I would fold and laugh at his 22 or 33.

A gross spot would be if he leads river if we check turn though; I think we'd have to call half-pot ish and fold to more, although if this is rush poker like I think it is, then I think you have to call any bet.