NL200 AQo 3bet pot vs nit

Villain is 16/13/2.4 over 253 hands... No real history, don't even know villain. Was wondering if this is standard cooler or if a fold is possible here... I'm going to admit I didn't even think about why he was raising, it was more like "I had two pair in 3b pot, all-in."

Going over this hand I was surprised to see AK here but I guess even the nittiest don't go broke button vs SB with AK PF...

Thoughts?

Submitted by : TheHuHu3

Full Tilt Poker Game #17592622199: Table Novara (6 max) - $1/$2 - No Limit Hold'em - 10:50:18 ET - 2010/01/14
Seat 2: Argith ($200)
Seat 3: Hero ($400)
Seat 4: Chief_kz1 ($213.25)
Seat 5: denise86 ($207.25)
Seat 6: 888micha88 ($226.30)
888micha88 posts the small blind of $1
Argith has 5 seconds left to act
Argith is sitting out
CRACKEDtheNUTS sits down
Hero posts the big blind of $2
The button is in seat #5

Holecards(Odds)
Dealt to Hero
CRACKEDtheNUTS adds $200
Argith stands up
Chief_kz1 folds
denise86 raises to $7
888micha88 folds
Hero has 15 seconds left to act
Hero raises to $24
denise86 has 15 seconds left to act
denise86 calls $17

Flop(Odds) (Pot : $49.00)

   
Hero has 15 seconds left to act
Hero bets $37
MikeSt sits down
MikeSt adds $200
denise86 has 15 seconds left to act
denise86 raises to $121
Hero raises to $376, and is all in
denise86 calls $62.25, and is all in
Hero shows
denise86 shows
Uncalled bet of $192.75 returned to Hero

Turn(Odds) (Pot : $415.50)

   

River (Pot : $415.50)

   
Hero shows two pair, Aces and Queens
denise86 shows two pair, Aces and Kings
denise86 wins the pot ($413.50) with two pair, Aces and Kings
Hero adds $7.25

Summary
Total pot $415.50 | Rake $2
Board:
Seat 2: Argith is sitting out
Seat 3: Hero (big blind) showed and lost with two pair, Aces and Queens
Seat 4: Chief_kz1 didn't bet (folded)
Seat 5: denise86 (button) showed and won ($413.50) with two pair, Aces and Kings
Seat 6: 888micha88 (small blind) folded before the Flop

wtf wtf wtf wtf wtf wtf
IS THIS A LEVEL?
seriously?
i dont get it..

you do realize that he 4bet pre and you shove over his yberstrong range with AQ? where do you see 2pair and "I had two pair in 3b pot, all-in."

why in the world would you ever 3bet this vs a 16/13?

and what do you mean you have two pair? you guys got it in pre....

AJDSHKJLHAJSKDHJKASD I posted the wrong hand before.. This is the correct one.

that's much better yet you both play your hands pretty bad.

I wouldn't 3B this pf and I wouldn't even bet this flop vs a 16/13. You're WA/WB and almost all of the hands that you're ahead of aren't going to pay off a bet. That said, you bet the flop and now you're probably crushed lol. Funny thing is I might call a raise here if he had raised you small but he made it so big that he's almost guaranteed to have a hand and you're losing against it.

The reason you are so happy to get it in on this board is because if you are able to 3bet this hand for value against this opponent then you should be thrilled with this spot; this implies that you shouldn't really be 3betting AQ for value here imo.

I suspect flatting PF is the best line here or just dump it PF? If so, would a 3b/fold line be better on the flop if I just flat PF?

I'd prob flat pre as well. But either way on the flop, he raises you almost 4x and there's no combo draws avail. Is a 16/13 nit really popping you here with AJ/QJ/JJ? As gross as folding 2p in a 3b pot is, I don't see how we are ever even good b/c his raise size is so huge I'd suspect he's never bluffing.

I dont mind 3bet pre but check flop.

standard 3bet fold to 4bet. How hard is it ?

fold to the flop raise! with those stats it is very clear he has TJ,AK,QQ,KK or a spaz. And I think it's almost never just spazzing. U gotta fold flop, he beats u with everything he raises.

I think 3betting is fine, I think cbetting flop is fine. He made htis hand very easy for you to play IMO.

Against someone playing like that.. unless they never fold to 3bets.. I prefer flatcalling with AQ here preflop. Also, his button PFR % is way more important than his overall stats.

On January 28 2010 12:26 Twisted wrote: Against someone playing like that.. unless they never fold to 3bets.. I prefer flatcalling with AQ here preflop. Also, his button PFR % is way more important than his overall stats.

16/13 I doubt he flats kq/aj unless u been 3betting him like crazy. Which u haven't
but in all seriouness when I heard title aqo 200nl vs nit. I knew it was aq vs ak

dont 3 bet pre
fold to flop riase

On January 28 2010 15:36 HeRoS)eNGagE wrote: dont 3 bet pre fold to flop riase

Where is steal from CO %, where is Fold to 3bet %