PLO 10- Passive Line Check

I have been messing around with PLO and had a question about how I handled this hand. Villain was very aggressive throughout the session (maybe 55 hands). If he was in a pot on the flop and hit at all it was 3 streets of betting.

My limp was a misclick, I was going to fold. When he limped I thought he didn't really like his cards too much.

Flop: I raise his bet trying to protect my hand. I figured he would reraise me and was ok with that. He wouldn't be able to make me shove, which is what I didn't want to do on that flop due to the flush and possible runner runner for a boat.

Turn: Once the turn hits, I am much more comfortable with my equity vs his flush and maybe lower straights. So I called the all in happily.

I have learned that slow playing bites you in the ass, but I feel that with this opponent being so aggressive and with a hand that is virtually a flip on the flop that in order to protect my stack a smooth call to reevaluate on the turn would be best.

How does this line look and what about my though process? any input is welcome, Thanks!

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u can't conserve chips after his flop 3bet. ur allin at that point. so it doesn't matter if he could raise u allin or not, ur committed.

and actually, u should allin. just in case he has u on a flush draw, and flush hits turn and he check/folds his 9txx or 678x or whatever


raising the flop is ok if u think u can get action from non-nut/non-freerolling hands

Ok, so leaving about 40% of my stack behind with around 50% equity isn't the best play? Or does the equity not really matter all that much because of the small amount of chips I have left?

it wouldn't matter unless you absolutely know he has a flush
but you don't. if you call flop and then the turn completes a flush, and you fold to his bet - some of the time you will have gotten bluffed or semi-bluffed and will have folded the best hand.

ok, thanks.

On December 21 2009 17:35 asdf2000 wrote: it wouldn't matter unless you absolutely know he has a flush but you don't. if you call flop and then the turn completes a flush, and you fold to his bet - some of the time you will have gotten bluffed or semi-bluffed and will have folded the best hand.

I disagree with this logic.

If he waits until the turn he can put in the rest of his money with much improved EV in situations where he would otherwise have been flipping on the flop. He will also get the opportunity to bluff on completion cards vs. hands that he would otherwise be splitting with.

I think the hand can be played both ways but it certainly isn't bad to wait until the turn. Even if you end up taking yourself to value town on the turn when they check and you get your bluff snapped off by a turned flush/house that's money you would have lost anyways had you put it in directly on the flop. I prefer the chance to bluff in a game where people fear the nuts like its going out of style.

trap hand fold pre
flat flop (mass mw), wanna see a brick and commit, else soulread

What the hell?

Raise/fold pre. I raise. Shove it in on the flop. Money goes in anyhow with these stack sizes. Useless argumentation, as he's never folding after 3bet potting the flop and you can't really fold if it pairs or flushes since the situation is impossible to read. (Apart from the fact that high flushdraws are unlikely, as they're often raising preflop. However it's plo10 so all sorts of wicked shit happen.)

You're advocating so weak lines it sickens me.

Am I alone here?

fold pre flop

As far as the flop goes, fold it reverse implied odds imo

Don't post useless stuff like "fold preflop" when you obviously didn't read my post.

On December 21 2009 16:07 deahttubb wrote: My limp was a misclick, I was going to fold.

Thanks for the advice though.

lol, come on, are u really expecting people to read all that text on a PLO10 hand?