PLO50 200bb deep 3bet pot

Submitted by : barbieman

Full Tilt Poker Game #16831892824: Table Broke (6 max) - $0.25/$0.50 - Pot Limit Omaha Hi - 18:50:13 ET - 2009/12/15
Seat 1: barbieman ($101.75)
Seat 2: Arctic madness ($51.55)
Seat 3: KLOA ($22.50)
Seat 4: fukunt ($68.45)
Seat 5: coalharbour ($127.70)
Seat 6: charFander ($64.90)
barbieman posts the small blind of $0.25
Arctic madness posts the big blind of $0.50
The button is in seat #6

Holecards
Dealt to barbieman
KLOA folds
fukunt folds
coalharbour raises to $1.75
charFander folds
barbieman raises to $5.75
Arctic madness folds
coalharbour calls $4

Flop (Pot : $12.00)

   
barbieman

i dont play plo but i dont think you should be 3-betting this deep out of position your gonna end up making a "PLO50 200bb deep 3bet pot" thread on 80%+ of flops..
call and try and play a small pot on most flops

i think 3 betting is fine. but you are better off leaving out bad aces. this is a suited one so i think its fine. make sure you are also 3betting non aces hands.

what you do on the flop depends a lot on how you play different flops. i think you have some good potential here, but its too weak of a spot to get it in this deep on the flop imo.

so depending on your general c-bet sizing i would check or bet. if your general c-bet is small i think you can bet and call. if your general c-bet is big i think your better off checking. also if you do some c/r with big hands checking becomes more attractive as he will fear this. checking also disguises your FD so if you hit it you become more likely to get paid off by a lower draw on the later streets.

if he is a calling station type and very rarely raises the flop, imo a c-bet becomes a lot better.

i think i like either checking or betting small as i want to get to later streets. in addition to having a draw to the nuts you also have some blockers so if a K or Q shows up you might be able to rep a hand that includes AK (your 3bet makes that more credible)

anyway im pretty new to PLO myself so feel free to ignore but in conclusion i dont want to c-bet here and get raised POT

Aces are not nuts, especially not weak aces like that in such preflop setting.

Listen to Tom.

him being 62/29 is irrelevant. once you reraise his vpip will be 100 with most of it being calls and probably none of that 62/29 being in this situation.

furthermore if you flat preflop and you flop top set, your hand will be super disguisted

BTW piratematerial position is BY far the most important thing in deep stack poker (sometimes more important then getting a premium starting hand) i immagine this is even more true in PLO. Your entire post starts with "if" or this random balance bullshit, OP said he has only 20 hands in villian and is 100% readless, therefore villian is 100% readless on us as well, therefore our frequency of anything / history is irrelivant / non existant...

unless the flop comes exactly Axx, hero is gonna be starting a thread on EVERY single flop (85% roughly), flatting pre / playing your hand for set value / small pot value should be best here, esp if hero is unfomortable in 3b pots, which is extremley likley (even most NL regs dont know how to play 3b pots), omaha is gonna be much tougher

Agree with everything Tom said.

If u are gonna 3bet oop this deep u've got to have a hand with many more draws. I wouldnt 3bet there if i wasnt at least double suited double suited.

The only reason u would 3bet there would be if u knew he would 4bet. (lol too many woulds) But even if that's the case the hand is bearly strong enough to flip preflop.

I hope you don't mind, but... I love you Talented Tom.

I side with Tom's analysis on this one.

Tom FTMFW

3betting this is terrible deep and oop, ur kickers are shit, unsuited and disconnected.

ur oop, u scream aa pre
when u lead this flop he knows exactly what you have and can exploit you in so many ways making 3betting deep oop here bad.
id rather 3bet a rundown semi suited broadway hand 200bb deep than this since its a hit hard miss scenario on flops.

3 betting is bad OOP. Just call. On this flop, check and try to call some small bet. Betting will get you raised off your hand.