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ytricky   Germany. Dec 17 2009 12:09. Posts 600

Submitted by : ytricky

***** Hand History for Game 3022311375 ***** (Prima)
$50.00 USD PL Omaha - Monday, December 14, 10:40:29 ET 2009
Table Brabantio Clown 3 (Real Money)
Seat 3 is the button
Seat 1: Missjane ( $129.21 USD )
Seat 2: gamy ( $96.28 USD )
Seat 3: -Accipiter- ( $42.30 USD )
Seat 4: Hero ( $50.25 USD )
Seat 5: fiskeniskogen ( $50.00 USD )
Seat 6: abith ( $50.00 USD )
Hero posts small blind [$0.25 USD].
fiskeniskogen posts big blind [$0.50 USD].
Dealt to Hero
[ KhJhQs9h ]
abith folds
Missjane folds
gamy raises [$1.25 USD]
-Accipiter- raises [$4.50 USD]
Hero calls [$4.25 USD]
fiskeniskogen folds
gamy calls [$3.25 USD]

Flop (Pot : $14.00)

   JsAsKd
Hero checks



So the limper is playing 40/19 and the guy who raises, plays 38/23 and 3bets a decent amount.
First question is, can i 3bet this hand preflop. Benefits of 3betting would be, that we maybe get a headsup pot, with a good hand and reducing positional disadvantage. However im not sure what we should do against a 4bet here.
So on the flop this is an easy check/fold right? There is a better twopair out there + a made straight is possible.

Submitted by : ytricky

***** Hand History for Game 3022179343 ***** (Prima)
$50.00 USD PL Omaha - Monday, December 14, 09:52:28 ET 2009
Table Montano 2 (Real Money)
Seat 3 is the button
Seat 2: klesou45 ( $50.00 USD )
Seat 3: Time_78 ( $25.93 USD )
Seat 5: Hero ( $51.60 USD )
Seat 6: -Accipiter- ( $50.33 USD )
Hero posts small blind [$0.25 USD].
-Accipiter- posts big blind [$0.50 USD].
Dealt to Hero
[ Js9s7sTc ]
klesou45 folds
Time_78 calls [$0.50 USD]
Hero raises [$1.75 USD]
-Accipiter- calls [$1.50 USD]
Time_78 calls [$1.50 USD]

Flop (Pot : $5.75)

   Ts7hQc
Hero checks
-Accipiter- bets [$6.00 USD]
Time_78 calls [$6.00 USD]
Hero calls [$6.00 USD]

Turn (Pot : $23.75)

   Ts7hQc5h
Hero checks



Limper is some 70 VPIP fish. overcaller is the same guy from last hand. So i dont know what the best flop play is here. I think a cbet is kind of iffy since there are so many straightdraws out there and possible better made hands. Is this just a check/fold? At the moment i kinda was attached to the hand and didnt want to let go. I thought that a T or 7 gives us a good hand and also an 8 gives us the nuts. Looking at the hand again, this looks too weak to make a call, since 4 of our outs arent even to the nuts.

Hope you guys can give some advice to a starting out PLO player.

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YouGoTGoT   United States. Dec 17 2009 13:51. Posts 1118

Hand 1 - Im assuming when your asking about a 3bet your actually talking about a 4bet since the villain has already 3bet the fish that raised. I would say its ok either way against this type of opponent, a 4bet is fine and a call is fine. As for the flop this is an easy c/f since you beat nothing your getting action from and althought i dont like when people say wait for better spots, i must say that in these low stakes PLO games there are MUCH better spots.

Hand 2 - Cbet this flop all day, if you get raised fold. Your only safe out here is an 8 and ur crushed by QT/sets/wraps. There are definitely times when you shouldnt cbet but a majority of the time you should, if your unsure, just cbet its never a bad move.

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asdf2000   United States. Dec 17 2009 14:23. Posts 7710

i agree with everything ^ said

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sawseech   Canada. Dec 19 2009 15:17. Posts 3182

h2 JT97 100% getting called/overcalled oop by at least 1 player one of which is halfstack? gross

lets go fucking mental la la la la lets go fucking mental lets go fucking mental lala la la 

sawseech   Canada. Dec 19 2009 15:20. Posts 3182

it's like, these guys, their job is to limp and then u raise everything for value and kick their teeth in all day, that's their function, there's absolutely no need to do this

lets go fucking mental la la la la lets go fucking mental lets go fucking mental lala la la 

ytricky   Germany. Dec 19 2009 18:44. Posts 600


  On December 19 2009 14:20 sawseech wrote:
it's like, these guys, their job is to limp and then u raise everything for value and kick their teeth in all day, that's their function, there's absolutely no need to do this



To do what? raise PF?

 Last edit: 19/12/2009 18:45

sawseech   Canada. Dec 19 2009 23:44. Posts 3182

what do you expect to flop with this hand and how are you going to proceed either multiway or heads up out of position against a guy playing 50bb?

your best flops are AKQ and overfulls. i think that these flops are rare.

lets go fucking mental la la la la lets go fucking mental lets go fucking mental lala la la 

ytricky   Germany. Dec 20 2009 10:50. Posts 600


  On December 19 2009 22:44 sawseech wrote:
what do you expect to flop with this hand and how are you going to proceed either multiway or heads up out of position against a guy playing 50bb?

your best flops are AKQ and overfulls. i think that these flops are rare.



I expect to flop top two + some kind of straightdraw alot + wraps on 8xx boards.


iverson2k2k   Canada. Dec 20 2009 13:46. Posts 475


  On December 17 2009 12:51 YouGoTGoT wrote:
Hand 1 - Im assuming when your asking about a 3bet your actually talking about a 4bet since the villain has already 3bet the fish that raised. I would say its ok either way against this type of opponent, a 4bet is fine and a call is fine. As for the flop this is an easy c/f since you beat nothing your getting action from and althought i dont like when people say wait for better spots, i must say that in these low stakes PLO games there are MUCH better spots.

Hand 2 - Cbet this flop all day, if you get raised fold. Your only safe out here is an 8 and ur crushed by QT/sets/wraps. There are definitely times when you shouldnt cbet but a majority of the time you should, if your unsure, just cbet its never a bad move.



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