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ytricky   Germany. Dec 17 2009 12:09. Posts 600 | | |
Submitted by : ytricky
***** Hand History for Game 3022311375 ***** (Prima)
$50.00 USD PL Omaha - Monday, December 14, 10:40:29 ET 2009
Table Brabantio Clown 3 (Real Money)
Seat 3 is the button
Seat 1: Missjane ( $129.21 USD )
Seat 2: gamy ( $96.28 USD )
Seat 3: -Accipiter- ( $42.30 USD )
Seat 4: Hero ( $50.25 USD )
Seat 5: fiskeniskogen ( $50.00 USD )
Seat 6: abith ( $50.00 USD )
Hero posts small blind [$0.25 USD].
fiskeniskogen posts big blind [$0.50 USD].
Dealt to Hero
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abith folds
Missjane folds
gamy raises [$1.25 USD]
-Accipiter- raises [$4.50 USD]
Hero calls [$4.25 USD]
fiskeniskogen folds
gamy calls [$3.25 USD]
Flop (Pot : $14.00)
  Hero checks
So the limper is playing 40/19 and the guy who raises, plays 38/23 and 3bets a decent amount.
First question is, can i 3bet this hand preflop. Benefits of 3betting would be, that we maybe get a headsup pot, with a good hand and reducing positional disadvantage. However im not sure what we should do against a 4bet here.
So on the flop this is an easy check/fold right? There is a better twopair out there + a made straight is possible.
Submitted by : ytricky
***** Hand History for Game 3022179343 ***** (Prima)
$50.00 USD PL Omaha - Monday, December 14, 09:52:28 ET 2009
Table Montano 2 (Real Money)
Seat 3 is the button
Seat 2: klesou45 ( $50.00 USD )
Seat 3: Time_78 ( $25.93 USD )
Seat 5: Hero ( $51.60 USD )
Seat 6: -Accipiter- ( $50.33 USD )
Hero posts small blind [$0.25 USD].
-Accipiter- posts big blind [$0.50 USD].
Dealt to Hero
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klesou45 folds
Time_78 calls [$0.50 USD]
Hero raises [$1.75 USD]
-Accipiter- calls [$1.50 USD]
Time_78 calls [$1.50 USD]
Flop (Pot : $5.75)
  Hero checks
-Accipiter- bets [$6.00 USD]
Time_78 calls [$6.00 USD]
Hero calls [$6.00 USD]
Turn (Pot : $23.75)
   Hero checks
Limper is some 70 VPIP fish. overcaller is the same guy from last hand. So i dont know what the best flop play is here. I think a cbet is kind of iffy since there are so many straightdraws out there and possible better made hands. Is this just a check/fold? At the moment i kinda was attached to the hand and didnt want to let go. I thought that a T or 7 gives us a good hand and also an 8 gives us the nuts. Looking at the hand again, this looks too weak to make a call, since 4 of our outs arent even to the nuts.
Hope you guys can give some advice to a starting out PLO player. |
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YouGoTGoT   United States. Dec 17 2009 13:51. Posts 1118 | | |
Hand 1 - Im assuming when your asking about a 3bet your actually talking about a 4bet since the villain has already 3bet the fish that raised. I would say its ok either way against this type of opponent, a 4bet is fine and a call is fine. As for the flop this is an easy c/f since you beat nothing your getting action from and althought i dont like when people say wait for better spots, i must say that in these low stakes PLO games there are MUCH better spots.
Hand 2 - Cbet this flop all day, if you get raised fold. Your only safe out here is an 8 and ur crushed by QT/sets/wraps. There are definitely times when you shouldnt cbet but a majority of the time you should, if your unsure, just cbet its never a bad move. |
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asdf2000   United States. Dec 17 2009 14:23. Posts 7710 | | |
i agree with everything ^ said |
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sawseech   Canada. Dec 19 2009 15:17. Posts 3182 | | |
h2 JT97 100% getting called/overcalled oop by at least 1 player one of which is halfstack? gross |
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sawseech   Canada. Dec 19 2009 15:20. Posts 3182 | | |
it's like, these guys, their job is to limp and then u raise everything for value and kick their teeth in all day, that's their function, there's absolutely no need to do this |
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ytricky   Germany. Dec 19 2009 18:44. Posts 600 | | |
| | On December 19 2009 14:20 sawseech wrote:
it's like, these guys, their job is to limp and then u raise everything for value and kick their teeth in all day, that's their function, there's absolutely no need to do this |
To do what? raise PF? |
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sawseech   Canada. Dec 19 2009 23:44. Posts 3182 | | |
what do you expect to flop with this hand and how are you going to proceed either multiway or heads up out of position against a guy playing 50bb?
your best flops are AKQ and overfulls. i think that these flops are rare. |
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ytricky   Germany. Dec 20 2009 10:50. Posts 600 | | |
| | On December 19 2009 22:44 sawseech wrote:
what do you expect to flop with this hand and how are you going to proceed either multiway or heads up out of position against a guy playing 50bb?
your best flops are AKQ and overfulls. i think that these flops are rare. |
I expect to flop top two + some kind of straightdraw alot + wraps on 8xx boards. |
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| | On December 17 2009 12:51 YouGoTGoT wrote:
Hand 1 - Im assuming when your asking about a 3bet your actually talking about a 4bet since the villain has already 3bet the fish that raised. I would say its ok either way against this type of opponent, a 4bet is fine and a call is fine. As for the flop this is an easy c/f since you beat nothing your getting action from and althought i dont like when people say wait for better spots, i must say that in these low stakes PLO games there are MUCH better spots.
Hand 2 - Cbet this flop all day, if you get raised fold. Your only safe out here is an 8 and ur crushed by QT/sets/wraps. There are definitely times when you shouldnt cbet but a majority of the time you should, if your unsure, just cbet its never a bad move. |
Don't think I could have said it better myself |
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