This Athene-guy who was trolling 2p2 a while ago, says he will play 1 million hands in December, and if he do, he thinks stars will sponsor him. Bet a dollar he will go insane half-way....
dogmeat Czech Republic. Nov 09 2009 13:58. Posts 6374
he will make it imo
whos coaching him?
ban baal
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Maynard! United States. Nov 09 2009 14:00. Posts 4453
Didnt this guy make lvl 80 paladin in a day or something in warcraft?
How many hands/hr can someone do 24tabling? He'd need like 32k/day.
Now I really am a busto. Thanks FTP.
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dogmeat Czech Republic. Nov 09 2009 14:01. Posts 6374
I will start every day playing 24 tables 9max 100NL as i beat it lately for a good profit to build a roll then switch to 24 tabling 6max 25NL when i'm less focussed and even if i'd lose some i'd still be break even.
Yes the guy made a level 80 in WoW in actually less than 24hrs played it was 18hrs if i remember right.The normal amount of time an avarage dude would reach it was about ~13days played.
What i know is - this guy will surely try his best to succeed in the challenge.He looks like the kind of guy that sets a goal and does everything to accomplish it.However .. 1mil hands in 1 month this sounds impossible.Even if he does it i m sure there ll be some real health consequences.Maybe it seems something normal to sit in front of a computer for a month but this challenge demands a lot of things: he cant take tilt breaks, he ll basically have no time for anything else than sleeping like 6-8 hours a day and playing other 16-18hrs.
Can someone calculate how many hands/hr must he play in order to succeed in 31 days 24 tabling 16 hours
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This guy is an epic troll, his vid library on youtube is amazing, I've watched some of it before, hadn't heard about this 1m hand thing yet though, looks interesting.
On November 09 2009 13:00 Maynard! wrote:
Didnt this guy make lvl 80 paladin in a day or something in warcraft?
How many hands/hr can someone do 24tabling? He'd need like 32k/day.
lol, he actually levelled a friend from 70-80 in about a day and didnt level himself
That was using an exploit and not due to excessive play or anything and doesnt help him in this situation whatsoever.
Basically in instances/dungeons in WoW due to the game mechanics whenever you attack a creature you are considered to have 'tagged' that mob, if someone is to kill that mob after you've tagged it, you still get credit for the kill (loot/experience). You get more experience the more damage you do to the mob.
So, typically a group setup will be:
1. tank - able to take lots of damage (the guy levelling to 80)
2. dps - able to kill packs of mobs quickly
3. dps
4. dps
5. healer (athene)
What they did was they would kick the tank from the group (WoW mechanics give you 1 minute to return to the party or else you're teleported out of the dungeon) then the tank would tag all of the mobs and then they would reinvite him to the party so he doesnt get kicked from the instance/dungeon. By tagging all the mobs he got full credit / experience for all of the kills and as a result managed to level extremely quickly.
Note that athene didnt actually level to 80 himself, it was his paladin tank friend who levelled. Also, due to the mechanics of the game, as his friend levelled higher and higher, he did more damage as that particular tank spec is an AoE tank which is great for taking on wave after wave of mobs. This means he got more experience %wise as he levelled but also less at the same time b/c of the lowering level of the mobs in comparison to his current level.
Its just hilarious that athene was still something like level 71 when his friend was level 80 then started claiming world first to 80 when in fact it was his friend who actually hit 80.
if poker is dangerous to them i would rank sports betting as a Kodiak grizzly bear who smells blood after you just threw a javelin into his cub - RaiNKhAN
he has no shot.
unless you multitable across multiple sites and play 30+ tables this cant be done. he would need to play close to 18 hours a day, no chance
this is assuming full ring and not 6max
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On November 09 2009 13:55 Daut wrote:
he has no shot.
unless you multitable across multiple sites and play 30+ tables this cant be done. he would need to play close to 18 hours a day, no chance
this is assuming full ring and not 6max
Its obv just to create a buzz around him and make him attractive for pokerstars to recruit or w/e. Even if he fails, he's not betting on it (wisely) but just wants the attention of the poker community and pokerstars.
if poker is dangerous to them i would rank sports betting as a Kodiak grizzly bear who smells blood after you just threw a javelin into his cub - RaiNKhAN
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Critterer United Kingdom. Nov 09 2009 15:17. Posts 5337
chiren is insane grinder, if anyone can do it its him imo
On November 09 2009 14:37 Joeingram1 wrote:
Whatever record he does set, I will break it though.
such a badass line
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DooMeR United States. Nov 09 2009 15:45. Posts 8564
everyone says how i am a grind monkey but i barely played 130k hands in one month before and i was going crazy.
u guys are assholes making me look bad imo
I just saved a bunch of money on my car insurance, by running away from the scene of an accident.
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EvilSky Czech Republic. Nov 09 2009 15:53. Posts 8918
Well I did some rough calculation and it seems if he played 2nl FR and folded every hand he could make it with only losing around $3500, I dont know how much extra hands per hour that would give him tho.
On November 09 2009 14:53 EvilSky wrote:
Well I did some rough calculation and it seems if he played 2nl FR and folded every hand he could make it with only losing around $3500, I dont know how much extra hands per hour that would give him tho.
yeah but hes gonna play nl25-nl100 and has to break even
TalentedTom Canada. Nov 09 2009 16:45. Posts 20070
On November 09 2009 14:09 Baal wrote:
isnt this idiot an old troll? just watch his vids
This, also theres no way on earth he makes it, he wont even reach 500k IMO
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I say he goes crazy half way! 16 hours a day of 24 tabling ...... I dont think this will be possible and if it does, i really dont think he will break even. If he actually makes $$ then !!!
So many fish but so little time to go fishing!
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milkman United States. Nov 09 2009 17:49. Posts 5719
i think its a troll again, but if he tries to do this im gonna wait list half his tables and ruin his day every day about 10hrs into his sessions.
Its hard to make a easy buck legally, its impossible to make a easy buck morally.
Hard to tell with that guy lol, he's pretty insane. He's most famous (Non good) Wow gamer, cos of his trillion vods. Stopped wow a year ago or something, switched to poker. Who knows, 50% of the time he does something, it's legt, rest it's fake/exploit. Fun either way to look at the outcome xD
Last time he did something I saw, he fixed some stream, got 5000 wow gamers on it, and they kept all joining servers at the same time crashing them.
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Thunderous United Kingdom. Nov 09 2009 18:06. Posts 7
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Critterer United Kingdom. Nov 09 2009 18:20. Posts 5337
On November 09 2009 16:49 milkman wrote:
i think its a troll again, but if he tries to do this im gonna wait list half his tables and ruin his day every day about 10hrs into his sessions.
Critterer United Kingdom. Nov 09 2009 18:23. Posts 5337
and sure hes a troll but he is also a sick grinder, plays bad weak tight poker but he sure has stamina
i think you are way off the mark when u say he wont even make 500k tom, im pretty confident he will do this. theres people on nl100 FR who play close to 500k hands a month standard.
On November 09 2009 14:53 bane wrote:
it will be so good when he is all happy about 1m hands and joe smashes it
if poker is dangerous to them i would rank sports betting as a Kodiak grizzly bear who smells blood after you just threw a javelin into his cub - RaiNKhAN
On November 09 2009 14:53 bane wrote:
it will be so good when he is all happy about 1m hands and joe smashes it
hahahaha hillarious for the ones who know that meme
LOLOLOL
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milkman United States. Nov 09 2009 20:57. Posts 5719
On November 09 2009 16:49 milkman wrote:
i think its a troll again, but if he tries to do this im gonna wait list half his tables and ruin his day every day about 10hrs into his sessions.
why would you do this ?
I <3 money
Its hard to make a easy buck legally, its impossible to make a easy buck morally.
On November 09 2009 23:12 Night2o1 wrote:
hahahaha wtf you laid it out like a manga, exposing your nerdiness..! though the meme might have it set up like this too, whatever!
funny as hell though
hahaha, i now have to make a conscious effor to read magazines from left to right
On November 09 2009 23:12 Night2o1 wrote:
hahahaha wtf you laid it out like a manga, exposing your nerdiness..! though the meme might have it set up like this too, whatever!
funny as hell though
hahaha, i now have to make a conscious effor to read magazines from left to right
sigh so true
if poker is dangerous to them i would rank sports betting as a Kodiak grizzly bear who smells blood after you just threw a javelin into his cub - RaiNKhAN
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blackjacki2 United States. Nov 10 2009 01:19. Posts 2582
I don't think he will do it even if he could since he is Athene and that group makes a habit out of making stupid announcements that are just bullshit. But if anyone could do it it is definitely an MMO player like an old school Everquest player. Playing 16 hours a day for a month is a light month for those folks. The kind of people where everyone in their guild had each other's phone numbers so they could be on call 24/7 in case a boss spawned that they needed to form a raid for to kill (or something like that, I never played Everquest but supposedly there were fights over "tagging" a boss). The only problem is that MMO games are so slow that you can watch t.v. while you play them and 24 tabling NL100 is incredibly mentally fatigueing.
Just for fun here's a pic of arguably the best WoW player of all time grinding station for the last WoW expansion
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Exhilarate United States. Nov 10 2009 01:25. Posts 5453
you have to skip meals everyday and get like one hour of sleep in order for this to be possible.
no way he can do this.
milkman United States. Nov 10 2009 02:05. Posts 5719
yea first off its not possible, 2ndly yea what blackjack said is right, its way more mentally fatiguing playing 24tables, thats a decision almost every second for 16hrs or something a day.. it cant be done with any chance of profit.. and deff will lead to a crazy burnout or mental insanity
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dogmeat Czech Republic. Nov 10 2009 02:12. Posts 6374
phexac United States. Nov 10 2009 02:54. Posts 2563
I think at 1M hands in a month we are hitting the barrier where there is simply not enough time to do it.
Also what's with all this grinder bullshit being promoted? What ever happened to actually playing well rather than grinding and hoping that your rakeback will keep you afloat?
Nitting it up since 2006
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dogmeat Czech Republic. Nov 10 2009 03:01. Posts 6374
On November 10 2009 01:54 phexac wrote:
I think at 1M hands in a month we are hitting the barrier where there is simply not enough time to do it.
Also what's with all this grinder bullshit being promoted? What ever happened to actually playing well rather than grinding and hoping that your rakeback will keep you afloat?
i guess he s behind w/ sne so he has to do this anyway
On November 10 2009 00:19 blackjacki2 wrote:
I don't think he will do it even if he could since he is Athene and that group makes a habit out of making stupid announcements that are just bullshit. But if anyone could do it it is definitely an MMO player like an old school Everquest player. Playing 16 hours a day for a month is a light month for those folks. The kind of people where everyone in their guild had each other's phone numbers so they could be on call 24/7 in case a boss spawned that they needed to form a raid for to kill (or something like that, I never played Everquest but supposedly there were fights over "tagging" a boss). The only problem is that MMO games are so slow that you can watch t.v. while you play them and 24 tabling NL100 is incredibly mentally fatigueing.
Just for fun here's a pic of arguably the best WoW player of all time grinding station for the last WoW expansion
swedish candy ship ship
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LiLZhiMiNG Australia. Nov 10 2009 05:03. Posts 637
On November 10 2009 01:24 Baal wrote:
can we agree and close this shit and not give this idiot the attention he wants?
Agreed. The last gimmick was to draw attention to UIGEA, supposedly. But i really think he jerked off when he exposed the troll. Imo it was bad humor, bad taste, didn't live up to it s goal, nothing changed. He trolls for the sake of good and is labeled as an "evil genius" or whatever. If i had the power, i would definitely ban his ass from the poker forums.
I mean the fans can check out his progress on YT or 2+2. It is pretty obvious he will fail.
He had 100k in his account on ps. Did he do any props or won a tournament or what? PRT says he hasn't made 100k on cashgames.
BigRed0000 United States. Nov 10 2009 13:37. Posts 3554
I love this guy. Good re-open goose.
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dogmeat Czech Republic. Nov 10 2009 13:41. Posts 6374
On November 10 2009 05:37 cariadon wrote:
I mean the fans can check out his progress on YT or 2+2. It is pretty obvious he will fail.
He had 100k in his account on ps. Did he do any props or won a tournament or what? PRT says he hasn't made 100k on cashgames.
rakeback delivers
ban baal
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Maynard! United States. Nov 10 2009 13:53. Posts 4453
On November 10 2009 05:37 cariadon wrote:
I mean the fans can check out his progress on YT or 2+2. It is pretty obvious he will fail.
He had 100k in his account on ps. Did he do any props or won a tournament or what? PRT says he hasn't made 100k on cashgames.
rakeback delivers
how do u get cash rakeback @ PS ?
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ShLiM United Kingdom. Nov 10 2009 14:23. Posts 940
This Idiot is soooooo annoying, im lifetilted whenever i see his face, especially if it is on video format + audio asdasdsafdasjghfas
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On November 10 2009 05:37 cariadon wrote:
I mean the fans can check out his progress on YT or 2+2. It is pretty obvious he will fail.
He had 100k in his account on ps. Did he do any props or won a tournament or what? PRT says he hasn't made 100k on cashgames.
rakeback delivers
how do u get cash rakeback @ PS ?
he played 2,5mil hands @ nl100
it's estimated around 30-40k rakeback in forms of: milestone bonuses, instant cash bonuses, and simply converting fpp's into cash via concierge or playing sats.
chiren80, of the 108k hes made id venture a guess that >80% of it was in fpps/SNE bonuses
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FallinInLove Slovakia. Nov 10 2009 15:35. Posts 486
i like this guy mindset
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edzwoo United States. Nov 10 2009 17:22. Posts 5911
Random tip, Chiren plays bad in 3bet pots and he tends to call 3bets OOP, so for anyone at his tables, 3bet him IP and cbet halfpot.
He fights back by calling more of your 3bets but continues to fold if he doesn't hit lol.
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milkman United States. Nov 10 2009 17:28. Posts 5719
On November 10 2009 16:22 edzwoo wrote:
Random tip, Chiren plays bad in 3bet pots and he tends to call 3bets OOP, so for anyone at his tables, 3bet him IP and cbet halfpot.
He fights back by calling more of your 3bets but continues to fold if he doesn't hit lol.
lol this + him 24 tabling and gonna b super tired at the end of the day.. i guess he cant go broke cuz he has 1K buyins, but if he does attempt this its gonna b ez pickins
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dogmeat Czech Republic. Nov 10 2009 17:28. Posts 6374
heh? he never ever calls my 3b and instamucks to every squeeze
Just for fun here's a pic of arguably the best WoW player of all time grinding station for the last WoW expansion
Heyy!! No disrespect to Kungen, he is one sick mofo. But that statement is way out of line. He's pro at like, organizing, like uhm, the ppl who arrange wsop, building a strong community, stuff like that, lead one of the most successful guilds. But not that pro at playing
There are thousands of better wow players. Can't disrespect =p
Heroes of wow are Hydra, Inflame, Orangemarmelade, Hiren, ppl like that, equivelant of starcrafts Jaedong, Bisu, Stork, Fantasy etc. Kungen is more like, uhm, one of the pro commentators =p
Just for fun here's a pic of arguably the best WoW player of all time grinding station for the last WoW expansion
Heyy!! No disrespect to Kungen, he is one sick mofo. But that statement is way out of line. He's pro at like, organizing, like uhm, the ppl who arrange wsop, building a strong community, stuff like that, lead one of the most successful guilds. But not that pro at playing
There are thousands of better wow players. Can't disrespect =p
Heroes of wow are Hydra, Inflame, Orangemarmelade, Hiren, ppl like that, equivelant of starcrafts Jaedong, Bisu, Stork, Fantasy etc. Kungen is more like, uhm, one of the pro commentators =p
*ok, runs and hide*
From a PvE viewpoint, which is what WoW got most of its props from, Kungen is easily the best. All that stuff like leading raids and being the guildmaster to the greatest guild in WoW history is part of the game. I think WoW has typically received more respect for its PvE gameplay than PvP gameplay.
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superfashion United States. Nov 11 2009 13:56. Posts 918
This guy seems kind of cocky but I can't help but admire his attitude. Hope he reaches his goal.
shoving here as a bluff at 50NL is like explaning calcalus to a 6 month old cat wtf are you thinking - TalentedTom
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Joeingram1 United States. Nov 11 2009 14:11. Posts 943
On November 11 2009 13:20 FullBRing wrote:
i Think that in any propbet of number of hands bet chiren80 as an edge on you imo. No offense
lolol
u probably missed his 50k hands day
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He's not prop betting, he's not improving, he's not winning, he's not sleeping - what's the fucking point?
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mcjinzo United States. Dec 03 2009 14:52. Posts 71
some people just like to grind.
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YoMeR United States. Dec 03 2009 15:28. Posts 12438
grind life usually yields decent to good results.
eZ Life.
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Maynard! United States. Dec 03 2009 15:33. Posts 4453
On December 03 2009 14:28 YoMeR wrote:
grind life usually yields decent to good results.
Big_Rob_48 United States. Dec 03 2009 16:26. Posts 3432
88k hands tracked by ptr in 2 days so far, one was a 34k hand session the other a 54k hand session lol
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terrybunny19240 United States. Dec 03 2009 16:37. Posts 13829
chiren is sick. if he pulls this off it is really impressive.. lol 54k hand session
this guy isn't a joke, he seems like a super motivated guy IRL. he has mass (if nerdy) accomplishments in WoW (including being a highly rated pvp'r), while he runs his youtube videos (promoting his character Athene, and other semi-related video series), and now has made significant success with poker in a relatively small timespan.
hope it doesn't hurt his health too much though.. rofl 1million hands in a month
also rofl at comic
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Maynard! United States. Dec 03 2009 16:46. Posts 4453
Now I really am a busto. Thanks FTP.
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jchysk United States. Dec 03 2009 17:07. Posts 435
Doesn't seem like enough of a benefit to even try for a million in a month. If it's just about hitting that million he could do it across PS & FTP at full ring without risking death from exhaustion.
w00t
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Zalfor United States. Dec 03 2009 17:22. Posts 2236
wow.
no wonder when I played against him he seemed really like a bad reg.
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gororokgororok Netherlands. Dec 03 2009 17:41. Posts 3941
On December 03 2009 15:37 Night2o1 wrote:
chiren is sick. if he pulls this off it is really impressive.. lol 54k hand session
this guy isn't a joke, he seems like a super motivated guy IRL. he has mass (if nerdy) accomplishments in WoW (including being a highly rated pvp'r), while he runs his youtube videos (promoting his character Athene, and other semi-related video series), and now has made significant success with poker in a relatively small timespan.
hope it doesn't hurt his health too much though.. rofl 1million hands in a month
I don't get that youtube video - why is it called chiren beat? cause chiren laid a beat? I thought I was gonna get to see chiren take a beat, which would have been much better.
lol @ him grinding with his mom there and singing songs
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Maynard! United States. Dec 03 2009 18:51. Posts 4453
Oh some other guy made video of himself where he was hopin to beat chiren. Ended up getting stacked and having chirens mom sing bling blang blaow at the stacking and them both making fun of him.
He says he mainly wants to do the million hands to set a record and get noticed by pokerstars/ become a stars pro. Also I think an extra incentive is that he'll probably reach supernova elite sometime this month. SNE in his first year playing is pretty sick lol.
Don't understimate wow players though
They can really put insane time playing mindlessly until they get something...
In case i did it too, was playing 10h daily for 1 week straight just to get some exalted reputation on something (i don't remember exactly which one it is but it was for the winterfall tiger mount). It was a real pain in the ass. And this was just a joke compared to the average nerd...
Glad i stopped it.
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Maynard! United States. Dec 03 2009 19:42. Posts 4453
Good thing you got that exalted reputation winterfall tiger mount dude. Hows that workin out for you now?
Now I really am a busto. Thanks FTP.
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LemOn[5thF] Czech Republic. Dec 03 2009 19:50. Posts 15163
On December 03 2009 18:42 Maynard! wrote:
Good thing you got that exalted reputation winterfall tiger mount dude. Hows that workin out for you now?
he is a beast
sick sick grinder
100k from 5$ in less than a year and such a sick dedication
now a 54k session? respect
new shit has come to light... a-and... shit! man...
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traxamillion United States. Dec 03 2009 20:10. Posts 10468
do joeingram and chiren tile or stack when 24-tabling?
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traxamillion United States. Dec 03 2009 20:11. Posts 10468
chirens stats look pretty dam gross can't imagine him making money from much anyone but the straight fish
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JizzleSmitts United States. Dec 03 2009 21:27. Posts 1217
On December 03 2009 19:11 traxamillion wrote:
chirens stats look pretty dam gross can't imagine him making money from much anyone but the straight fish
Doesn't matter if you play break even and earn ridiculous rakeback though : /
On December 03 2009 19:10 traxamillion wrote:
do joeingram and chiren tile or stack when 24-tabling?
I don't know about Joe but Chiren said that he made a special program that puts up only tables that need action and then hides them once it's done.
He explains/shows it in this video:
this guy has serious issues
Browsing through your hand histories makes me wonder that you might not be aware these games are possibly play money. Have you ever tried to cash out? - Kapol
On December 03 2009 19:10 traxamillion wrote:
do joeingram and chiren tile or stack when 24-tabling?
I don't know about Joe but Chiren said that he made a special program that puts up only tables that need action and then hides them once it's done.
He explains/shows it in this video:
this guy has serious issues
It's an act... he has some videos when he's being himself, he's actually a pretty calm and intelligent guy in reality. Athene is his character, it's how he got famous.
Chiren out of character:
bah
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traxamillion United States. Dec 03 2009 22:13. Posts 10468
I usually 9 table pretty overlayed tiled tables. No hotkeys/scripts.
might have to try stacked but I feel like spatially where my tables are is how i keep track of them from hand to hand throughout a session
for you who dont know who he is or so, this video explains it pretty well, his background and stuff
its kinda like a documentary made by G4
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TalentedTom Canada. Dec 04 2009 02:31. Posts 20070
gonna be tough to get rid of that sick troll image
Our deepest fear is not that we are inadequate. Our deepest fear is that we are powerful beyond measure. It is our light not our darkness that most frightens us and as we let our own lights shine we unconsciously give other people permision to do the same
he was athenes partner in wow when they were rank1 in 2 vs 2 games or something
something tells me this was during BC.
dont know to much about wow, my brother told me earlier on msn when i asked him the same question who that guy was =)
apperantly they were ranked 1 in PvP 2on2 over a long time together
at one point during wow evolution the class he played was simply unkillable.
Judging by the arena maps he played im more likely right then not on my estimate.
On December 04 2009 09:01 SfydjkLm wrote:
who's that furious guy?
he is the guy in athenes videos without a shirt.
he was athenes partner in wow when they were rank1 in 2 vs 2 games or something
Furious (Dean) is one of Athene's friends and he's the brother of the long haired guy Abraham (Reese) - who does a lot of the camera work, the video editing and all the technical stuff pretty much. Furious never really played competitive WoW, it was for show in the videos but he was actually more of an FPS player, played CS and COD4. He was never Athene's arena partner in WoW.
Basically part of the premise of the show when they started is that Athene wanted to make fun of his arena partner, so in their first clip they had Furious sitting there shirtless acting like a gimp and Athene told everyone he was Navarium (Athene's arena partner).
They actually explain how the show started in this clip if you're interested:
On November 09 2009 16:49 milkman wrote:
i think its a troll again, but if he tries to do this im gonna wait list half his tables and ruin his day every day about 10hrs into his sessions.
Why do you want to do this? I respect his dedication and hope he succeeds.
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rANDY United Kingdom. Dec 04 2009 13:49. Posts 2223
On November 09 2009 16:49 milkman wrote:
i think its a troll again, but if he tries to do this im gonna wait list half his tables and ruin his day every day about 10hrs into his sessions.
On December 04 2009 07:10 SpasticInk wrote:
i wouldnt call it bulldoze it. 7k hands, played 4 more hours... it's not like Joe couldnt have done it but why should he when he won the prop bet.
I know all these things, the verb is arbitrary
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TalentedTom Canada. Dec 04 2009 17:47. Posts 20070
playing 1 million hands of breakeven poker is absolutley retarded, and that is what he is gonna accomplish here
Our deepest fear is not that we are inadequate. Our deepest fear is that we are powerful beyond measure. It is our light not our darkness that most frightens us and as we let our own lights shine we unconsciously give other people permision to do the same
On December 04 2009 16:47 TalentedTom wrote:
playing 1 million hands of breakeven poker is absolutley retarded, and that is what he is gonna accomplish here
regardless of if it's retarded or not, it definitely is grabbing a lot of attention in the poker world. and i'm pretty sure that's what he's trying to accomplish
i was just watching the livestream to see what this was all about and he just gave mad props to joeingram1 in a very mannered way and said that what he did was totally awesome and that he is a better player than himself
very nice, i kinda like the guy albeit not knowing him and his trolls that he claims to do
On December 04 2009 16:47 TalentedTom wrote:
playing 1 million hands of breakeven poker is absolutley retarded, and that is what he is gonna accomplish here
regardless of if it's retarded or not, it definitely is grabbing a lot of attention in the poker world. and i'm pretty sure that's what he's trying to accomplish
its grabbing a lot of attention on the poker forums, not really the poker world.
he'll probably get on 2+2 pokercast and similar if he completes it, but hes not going to get sponsorship for this.
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phexac United States. Dec 04 2009 22:08. Posts 2563
On December 04 2009 01:12 longple wrote:
haha looked up alittle more about this guy, they make some funny shit actually ^^
and his GF is hot!
Could not really see the T-shirt, but the chick's cleavage would sell well.
Nitting it up since 2006
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patmcgroin Afghanistan. Dec 04 2009 22:31. Posts 830
haha looked up alittle more about this guy, they make some funny shit actually ^^
and his GF is hot!
Could not really see the T-shirt, but the chick's cleavage would sell well.
just got a boner
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Stroggos New Zealand. Dec 05 2009 00:28. Posts 1117
I kept trying to half pot cbet him and he kept raising me
This guy was really funny for the first two days he started trolling the WoW forums, i can't find his post but basically when he started out, he was this random guy that posted he was "the best paladin in the world." What made it funny was that it was true. He followed up with this video Titanic scene is hilarious
if poker is dangerous to them i would rank sports betting as a Kodiak grizzly bear who smells blood after you just threw a javelin into his cub - RaiNKhAN
I think he's pretty annoying, and he was an average WoW player at best. :<
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vlseph United States. Dec 06 2009 01:59. Posts 3026
On December 04 2009 16:47 TalentedTom wrote:
playing 1 million hands of breakeven poker is absolutley retarded, and that is what he is gonna accomplish here
The only hands a nit balances in his range are the nuts, the second nuts, and the third nuts.
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TalentedTom Canada. Dec 06 2009 02:05. Posts 20070
could turn out to be smart if he gets a deal ;0 we will see - gl to him
Our deepest fear is not that we are inadequate. Our deepest fear is that we are powerful beyond measure. It is our light not our darkness that most frightens us and as we let our own lights shine we unconsciously give other people permision to do the same
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Stroggos New Zealand. Dec 06 2009 03:22. Posts 1117
hes down $800 so far this month playing NL25, over about 150k hands. He's only gona make it to about 800k hands and lose about $3000 at this rate.
Well he's 24 tabling 6max and at the same time he's answering questions from the forums and from the stream chat, singing songs, talking to his friends and family etc. It's really tough to make profit playing under those conditions....
Hand wise though he's way ahead of pace actually, I can see him getting a million hands a few days early and then lowering the number of tables to make some profit and break even.
Watch his stream for a bit when he's on, I've been listening to it in the background for hours. Sometimes he sings and just goes crazy and at other times he answers questions seriously and talks about personal stuff.
On December 06 2009 02:22 Stroggos wrote:
hes down $800 so far this month playing NL25, over about 150k hands. He's only gona make it to about 800k hands and lose about $3000 at this rate.
He can't be down, the idea of this chall is to make 1mil hands with being atleast break even
yea gunna be hard imo, considering hes stuck almost 1k atm, and everyone is taking advantage of him by 3betting him super light to death, his fold to 3b is like 92% lol
After finishing his 5th session, he has played 170k hands and is down 600$ total.
From his 2p2 post:
"As you can see i'm 20-30BI down and the main reason thats the case is cause i have been focusing on interacting with people and not on playing good poker. My main goal to start with is be nice ahead with my hands and get people involved in the record.
I'm planning to focus on making profit starting from the 10th december which will affect the entertainment value of the livestreams drasticly"
So is this guy just really bad but plays enough hands to live off of fpps? Does he also play ftp?
AWESOME mentally handicapped, slept with like 30 guys, meeting her mum on the first date, unprotected sex, 12 year old girls.FIST PUMP - YOU ARE A MAN, MY SON. -Byrensam
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Rekrul United States. Dec 06 2009 14:48. Posts 3338
the guy said on live stream that if anyone really wanted to abuse him they could just 3 bet him, and he would fold because he is playing so many tables, is playing like shit, and is tired.
really dumb move imo, you reap what you sow.
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SpeedyJack United States. Dec 06 2009 15:04. Posts 618
On December 06 2009 13:48 Rekrul wrote:
this guy seems pretty gay to me
pretty obvious from the looks of his boyfriend that he is
On December 06 2009 13:19 ikc5 wrote:
So is this guy just really bad but plays enough hands to live off of fpps? Does he also play ftp?
No FTP just PS. He 24 tables 100nl FR usually. He has been playing for 7 months and has made 125k so far, most of it is obviously off fpps but he's also a marginal winner. He mentioned that once he reaches SNE he plans on playing less tables and improving his game. So he's not planning to be a rakeback pro for much longer, it was just the easiest most productive way to start off.
bah
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Syntax United States. Dec 06 2009 19:03. Posts 4415
On December 06 2009 14:05 BG1 wrote:
[QUOTE]On December 06 2009 13:19 ikc5 wrote:
He mentioned that once he reaches SNE he plans on playing less tables and improving his game.
I think this is where the real headaches will come...
On December 06 2009 14:05 BG1 wrote:
[QUOTE]On December 06 2009 13:19 ikc5 wrote:
He mentioned that once he reaches SNE he plans on playing less tables and improving his game.
I think this is where the real headaches will come...
Don't think he'll have much problem, playing 100nl with 100k+ bankroll isn't that stressful lol.
On December 06 2009 13:19 ikc5 wrote:
So is this guy just really bad but plays enough hands to live off of fpps? Does he also play ftp?
No FTP just PS. He 24 tables 100nl FR usually. He has been playing for 7 months and has made 125k so far, most of it is obviously off fpps but he's also a marginal winner. He mentioned that once he reaches SNE he plans on playing less tables and improving his game. So he's not planning to be a rakeback pro for much longer, it was just the easiest most productive way to start off.
are u sure about that because 125k seems like a lot of money just from fpps. A lot of people on this site can break even at nl100 on FR but I don't see any of them saying they made 6k a month because of it
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dogmeat Czech Republic. Dec 06 2009 23:55. Posts 6374
On December 06 2009 13:19 ikc5 wrote:
So is this guy just really bad but plays enough hands to live off of fpps? Does he also play ftp?
No FTP just PS. He 24 tables 100nl FR usually. He has been playing for 7 months and has made 125k so far, most of it is obviously off fpps but he's also a marginal winner. He mentioned that once he reaches SNE he plans on playing less tables and improving his game. So he's not planning to be a rakeback pro for much longer, it was just the easiest most productive way to start off.
are u sure about that because 125k seems like a lot of money just from fpps. A lot of people on this site can break even at nl100 on FR but I don't see any of them saying they made 6k a month because of it
Has anyone looked at this guys poker table rating, i dont see were he made 100K$ + his road to a million hand is going ok for # of hands being played but he seems to be in the -$. He will prob get a mill hands played but i doubt he will finish up in profit besides for RB. N e ways GL to him.
So many fish but so little time to go fishing!
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edzwoo United States. Dec 07 2009 02:49. Posts 5911
On December 07 2009 01:34 sabulous wrote:
Has anyone looked at this guys poker table rating, i dont see were he made 100K$ + his road to a million hand is going ok for # of hands being played but he seems to be in the -$. He will prob get a mill hands played but i doubt he will finish up in profit besides for RB. N e ways GL to him.
PTR is somewhat relatively new and only dates back to a certain point. Chiren has probably been around longer.
On December 07 2009 01:34 sabulous wrote:
Has anyone looked at this guys poker table rating, i dont see were he made 100K$ + his road to a million hand is going ok for # of hands being played but he seems to be in the -$. He will prob get a mill hands played but i doubt he will finish up in profit besides for RB. N e ways GL to him.
He's playing NL25 and currently down 650$ total. He's a 100NL regular, once he finishes his 1mil hands or close to finish, if he's still down money he can easily switch to 100nl play less tables and break even with 1 good session. He doesn't seem worried about that at all.
bah
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jeffv8x_-_16 Belgium. Dec 07 2009 03:13. Posts 2835
lol he rapped the spammers in the azz , that was some funny shit
how can u shove the river, he cant possibly call with worse -TalentedTom
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Stroggos New Zealand. Dec 07 2009 07:46. Posts 1117
On December 07 2009 01:34 sabulous wrote:
Has anyone looked at this guys poker table rating, i dont see were he made 100K$ + his road to a million hand is going ok for # of hands being played but he seems to be in the -$. He will prob get a mill hands played but i doubt he will finish up in profit besides for RB. N e ways GL to him.
He's playing NL25 and currently down 650$ total. He's a 100NL regular, once he finishes his 1mil hands or close to finish, if he's still down money he can easily switch to 100nl play less tables and break even with 1 good session. He doesn't seem worried about that at all.
seems like a bit of a gamble to rely on that having a winning nl100 session at the end of the month when his bb/100 is .3
On December 07 2009 10:42 Svenman87 wrote:
"I'm sorry but the deadline for applications has passed as the original deadline was October 31st. There will be more players added in 2010.Scotty"
Athene looked like he was on the verge of tears a few minutes ago - off camera now :3
First time I turn this stream on too - wow :x
Apparently Chiren has sent his application but they didn't receive it and the deadline has passed. Chiren decided that he's not giving up and he's going to fly to Pokerstars HQ tomorrow and personally hand it in. I hope they film this lol. glgl
Is it just me who thinks that's pathetic / attention whoring at it's best? I don't get why so many people like this guy, even if 90% of it is an act, it's still douchebaggery.
On December 07 2009 08:49 johnmagnus wrote:
# $800 at 100,000 VPP
# $2,000 at 200,000 VPP
# $3,000 at 300,000 VPP
# $4,000 at 400,000 VPP
# $5,000 at 500,000 VPP
# $6,000 at 600,000 VPP
# $8,000 at 800,000 VPP
= $ 28,800
In addition to this he has made 2.8 mill FPPs, and I think that will be about 44k in cash
On December 07 2009 13:10 Naib wrote:
Is it just me who thinks that's pathetic / attention whoring at it's best? I don't get why so many people like this guy, even if 90% of it is an act, it's still douchebaggery.
Why? He sets a goal and does whatever he can to achieve it. That's the reason he was succesful in WOW and in many games before it, why he's having success at poker and why he'll continue to do well. The guy also had his own political party, a show on Belgian TV, made a movie and who knows what else. He does what most people only wish to do but can't, it's more inspirational/motivating than pathetic imo.
bah
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YoMeR United States. Dec 07 2009 14:46. Posts 12438
calling him pathetic is prob ignorance unless you know the guy better. and even then you can use his will power and dedication to the grind life as in inspiration for all of us to grind even half as much as this fellow.
I've read most of this threada nd have no idea what you're talking about with this "application" - what's that about?
InnovativeYogis.com
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Svenman87 United States. Dec 07 2009 15:03. Posts 4636
On December 07 2009 13:55 k2o4 wrote:
I've read most of this threada nd have no idea what you're talking about with this "application" - what's that about?
Application process to be an online pro for pokerstars.
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ShLiM United Kingdom. Dec 07 2009 15:14. Posts 940
On December 07 2009 13:55 k2o4 wrote:
I've read most of this threada nd have no idea what you're talking about with this "application" - what's that about?
Application process to be an online pro for pokerstars.
I always though poker rooms invite players, not that players send applications lol
Seat 5: patatino showed [Qd 2d] and won ($609,730) with a pair of Twos
On December 07 2009 13:55 k2o4 wrote:
I've read most of this threada nd have no idea what you're talking about with this "application" - what's that about?
Application process to be an online pro for pokerstars.
I always though poker rooms invite players, not that players send applications lol
- "Several PokerStars Supernova VIP online poker players have been invited to fill out an application and to become a professional online poker player, holdin’ it down for the largest online poker room in the world, PokerStars.
There are currently about 5000 SuperNOva ViP’s at PokerStars, the site is looking for 25 new members of their online poker team."
Well like I posted on 2p2, I've been watching Athene for a while and to me it really looks like he's trying hard to act sad/upset in this video. There's no doubt he's going to the PS HQ, there's a 12 sec vid of him on the plane as well. However seeing as the 25 winners will be announced on the 23rd I think it's very possible he actually got it and is going there to sign some papers/talk to them in person.
It really looks to me like he's trying to contain his joy, maybe I'm wrong but something just doesn't seem right heh.
So I guess we'll see soon if the "tard that tries really hard" got what he wanted, and trolled everyone in the process. Btw even with this delay, he's still probably going to finish his million hand challenge as well.
Ok so this guy is motivated and very inspiring, but if we go by PTR his win rate is like 0.35/100BB playing FR. I dont think playing 1 million hands will get him PS pro. It would help if he was killing nl100 , but thats not the case here. I wish him the best in his challenge but the PS pro, i doubt this will happen. Many online players are raping the game out there. I think many people have played less hands but deserve PS pro more than him.
On December 08 2009 02:13 sabulous wrote:
Ok so this guy is motivated and very inspiring, but if we go by PTR his win rate is like 0.35/100BB playing FR. I dont think playing 1 million hands will get him PS pro. It would help if he was killing nl100 , but thats not the case here. I wish him the best in his challenge but the PS pro, i doubt this will happen. Many online players are raping the game out there. I think many people have played less hands but deserve PS pro more than him.
Correct me if I'm wrong, I don't really use PT or any stat programs but a 0.35/100BB winrate 24 tabling would equal the same profit as 8.4/100BB 1 tabling and 2.1/100BB 4 tabling right? That's not too bad. considering the insane rakeback that he's getting and the hours he puts in, he probably makes more profit than 99% of 100NL players no?
bah
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edzwoo United States. Dec 08 2009 03:49. Posts 5911
I'd say a .35ptbb winrate 24 tabling NL100 is pretty bad.
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terrybunny19240 United States. Dec 08 2009 03:49. Posts 13829
On December 08 2009 02:13 sabulous wrote:
Ok so this guy is motivated and very inspiring, but if we go by PTR his win rate is like 0.35/100BB playing FR. I dont think playing 1 million hands will get him PS pro. It would help if he was killing nl100 , but thats not the case here. I wish him the best in his challenge but the PS pro, i doubt this will happen. Many online players are raping the game out there. I think many people have played less hands but deserve PS pro more than him.
Correct me if I'm wrong, I don't really use PT or any stat programs but a 0.35/100BB winrate 24 tabling would equal the same profit as 8.4/100BB 1 tabling and 2.1/100BB 4 tabling right? That's not too bad. considering the insane rakeback that he's getting and the hours he puts in, he probably makes more profit than 99% of 100NL players no?
yes but when it comes in the form of rakeback its super gay that's the idea atleast
I don't really like (almost) purely rakeback pro'ing.. all it does is minimize the amount of money that stays in poker player's hands and maximizes the pokersite's income
On December 08 2009 02:49 edzwoo wrote:
I'd say a .35ptbb winrate 24 tabling NL100 is pretty bad.
I don't know, I usually 4 table 6max so I can't compare but I'd think for anyone playing that many tables at 100nl (which is a pretty decent limit) breaking even would already seem like an accomplishment lol.
If .35ptbb 24 tabling is pretty bad and he has made 125k in his first 7 months playing (with rakeback and bonuses) then I guess there's many 100nlers rolling in hundreds of thousands?
On December 08 2009 02:13 sabulous wrote:
Ok so this guy is motivated and very inspiring, but if we go by PTR his win rate is like 0.35/100BB playing FR. I dont think playing 1 million hands will get him PS pro. It would help if he was killing nl100 , but thats not the case here. I wish him the best in his challenge but the PS pro, i doubt this will happen. Many online players are raping the game out there. I think many people have played less hands but deserve PS pro more than him.
Correct me if I'm wrong, I don't really use PT or any stat programs but a 0.35/100BB winrate 24 tabling would equal the same profit as 8.4/100BB 1 tabling and 2.1/100BB 4 tabling right? That's not too bad. considering the insane rakeback that he's getting and the hours he puts in, he probably makes more profit than 99% of 100NL players no?
yes but when it comes in the form of rakeback its super gay that's the idea atleast
I don't really like (almost) purely rakeback pro'ing.. all it does is minimize the amount of money that stays in poker player's hands and maximizes the pokersite's income
which means this guy is taking less money off the fish, leaving more fish for you and me!
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Stroggos New Zealand. Dec 08 2009 04:28. Posts 1117
Considering the fact that he is pretty famous in WoW and that that game has ~11 million subscribers (not everyone will be able to play poker tho) it seems like he has a really good chance to get pro. Especially since that would make a statement to them that poker is just like wow.
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milkman United States. Dec 08 2009 04:49. Posts 5719
cross your fingers for my application getting picked
Its hard to make a easy buck legally, its impossible to make a easy buck morally.
On December 08 2009 02:13 sabulous wrote:
Ok so this guy is motivated and very inspiring, but if we go by PTR his win rate is like 0.35/100BB playing FR. I dont think playing 1 million hands will get him PS pro. It would help if he was killing nl100 , but thats not the case here. I wish him the best in his challenge but the PS pro, i doubt this will happen. Many online players are raping the game out there. I think many people have played less hands but deserve PS pro more than him.
Correct me if I'm wrong, I don't really use PT or any stat programs but a 0.35/100BB winrate 24 tabling would equal the same profit as 8.4/100BB 1 tabling and 2.1/100BB 4 tabling right? That's not too bad. considering the insane rakeback that he's getting and the hours he puts in, he probably makes more profit than 99% of 100NL players no?
yes but when it comes in the form of rakeback its super gay that's the idea atleast
I don't really like (almost) purely rakeback pro'ing.. all it does is minimize the amount of money that stays in poker player's hands and maximizes the pokersite's income
also sucks cause it is on PS and you get FPPs instead of direct cash.
so now you have FPPs and you can buy a bonus and then wait til that clears...
i also thought good 24 tablers are hitting 1-2ptbb/100 still or no?
The only hands a nit balances in his range are the nuts, the second nuts, and the third nuts.
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joLin United States. Dec 08 2009 07:11. Posts 3818
On December 08 2009 02:13 sabulous wrote:
Ok so this guy is motivated and very inspiring, but if we go by PTR his win rate is like 0.35/100BB playing FR. I dont think playing 1 million hands will get him PS pro. It would help if he was killing nl100 , but thats not the case here. I wish him the best in his challenge but the PS pro, i doubt this will happen. Many online players are raping the game out there. I think many people have played less hands but deserve PS pro more than him.
Correct me if I'm wrong, I don't really use PT or any stat programs but a 0.35/100BB winrate 24 tabling would equal the same profit as 8.4/100BB 1 tabling and 2.1/100BB 4 tabling right? That's not too bad. considering the insane rakeback that he's getting and the hours he puts in, he probably makes more profit than 99% of 100NL players no?
yes but when it comes in the form of rakeback its super gay that's the idea atleast
money is money i'd take it any way, rakeback or profit.
Why are so many LPers hating on Chiren? He's an all around pretty nice guy and his Athene videos were quite funny. I wasn't a fan when he played WoW (wasnt really aware of him, watched most of his old stuff recently), but it's been a few months i watch his vids and I've seen some streams, there is really no reason to bash a guy you don't know =/
Oh and Rekrul .... "looks pretty gay", yeah but look at the chick, don't think Tania' in it for the money, she's been with him way before poker was ever in the picture. I could say the same if I saw a clip of you, it's not like you're Johnny Depp. He's a really nice/funny guy, with a gorgeous chick, a large following online, why are you so mad at him?
You know what? Maybe he isn't so good at poker. But he's capitalized on his "fame" off the felt and I think good things are coming his way.
Yeah he capitalized on it in a pretty gay and attention whorish way. Grats! I mean I can't deny his accomplishment, sick work ethic, etc. (and yes it's good if you can draw inspiration from this to grind more). This whole celebrity attitude however "look, so many people watch me, try to mess with me, follow me, root for me I'M FAMOUSSSSSS" - it still just feels wrong, I don't know why you people refuse to see it. And I can't believe I'm in agreement with Baal about something, that sums up how sad this whole thing is, tbh.
If anyone wonders, I also have "personal" reasons. My friend was sitting on the same table as the guy in some random donkament on FTP, and his "I'm so fucking cool chatting everyone up in here" attitude got on my nerves (he asked me to take over while he has dinner or smth). Everyone I know who acts like that IRL is a douchebag, I don't think he'd be different. Oh wait, I know, "it's just an act, an online persona!" Well...you are what you act like. If he's like that 90% of the time, then he's that. Simple enough for me.
Not like we're gonna convince each other anyway, I'm out of this topic now (shouldn't have touched it either, like all the others about Chiren)
Hf everyone with the rakeback pro idolization.
My favourite line is Bet/Fold. I bet, you fold.
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Minsk United States. Dec 08 2009 09:26. Posts 1558
On December 08 2009 07:52 Naib wrote:
Yeah he capitalized on it in a pretty gay and attention whorish way. Grats! I mean I can't deny his accomplishment, sick work ethic, etc. (and yes it's good if you can draw inspiration from this to grind more). This whole celebrity attitude however "look, so many people watch me, try to mess with me, follow me, root for me I'M FAMOUSSSSSS" - it still just feels wrong, I don't know why you people refuse to see it. And I can't believe I'm in agreement with Baal about something, that sums up how sad this whole thing is, tbh.
If anyone wonders, I also have "personal" reasons. My friend was sitting on the same table as the guy in some random donkament on FTP, and his "I'm so fucking cool chatting everyone up in here" attitude got on my nerves (he asked me to take over while he has dinner or smth). Everyone I know who acts like that IRL is a douchebag, I don't think he'd be different. Oh wait, I know, "it's just an act, an online persona!" Well...you are what you act like. If he's like that 90% of the time, then he's that. Simple enough for me.
Not like we're gonna convince each other anyway, I'm out of this topic now (shouldn't have touched it either, like all the others about Chiren)
Hf everyone with the rakeback pro idolization.
You've probably only seen a few of his vids, live streams are much more personnal, but anyways, if you can't see past the troll, theres no point arguing here
he used to be funny before, now that he's revealed himself as a serious guy wanting people to follow him and tell pstars to make him a ps pro i find all this athene bs becoming lamer and lamer each day
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Cro)Deadman Croatia. Dec 08 2009 10:26. Posts 3943
I missed a lot,cliff notes why are we hating on chiren?
Metagame Purposes.
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HeRoS)eNGagE Canada. Dec 08 2009 10:31. Posts 10896
On December 08 2009 02:13 sabulous wrote:
Ok so this guy is motivated and very inspiring, but if we go by PTR his win rate is like 0.35/100BB playing FR. I dont think playing 1 million hands will get him PS pro. It would help if he was killing nl100 , but thats not the case here. I wish him the best in his challenge but the PS pro, i doubt this will happen. Many online players are raping the game out there. I think many people have played less hands but deserve PS pro more than him.
Correct me if I'm wrong, I don't really use PT or any stat programs but a 0.35/100BB winrate 24 tabling would equal the same profit as 8.4/100BB 1 tabling and 2.1/100BB 4 tabling right? That's not too bad. considering the insane rakeback that he's getting and the hours he puts in, he probably makes more profit than 99% of 100NL players no?
lol. Not really, this means he makes 0.35/100BB even when 1 tabling. Obv its good for rakeback, but if you check Pokertableratings.com (as i mentionned before) this kid didnt make 100K $ . He made almost 13K in 3 million hands. I'm not saying this is bad, but it doesnt really deserve PS pro.
On December 08 2009 15:19 Nadeem wrote:
Would they ever sponsor a random guy just for playing 1 million hands?
You people have suprising lack of grasp on marketing.
it's almost certain he already has a deal with Pokerstars.
How do u think he could possibly afford going to PCA with his crew, playing in WCOOP ME, etc.
*wink wink*
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MayZerG United Kingdom. Dec 08 2009 18:08. Posts 2123
On December 08 2009 17:13 BigRed0000 wrote:
he might not be good, but he has a lot more dedication and infinitely more work ethic than almost everyone who has bashed him in this thread.
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Maynard! United States. Dec 08 2009 18:53. Posts 4453
bah. he's trying his best to achieve his dream to be a pokerstars pro. what he lacks in skill he's making up for a good work ethic and some 'marketing' skills.
i know some of you really really really want to be a pokerstars pro deep inside tho you wouldn't admit it... some of you even thought it will actually happen to you just like fossilman or greg raymer. but it didn't happen.
then comes this guy chiren who's showing everyone what he wants and is trying his hardest to get it... but why is everyone bashing him/wanting him to fail? some of you get pleasure out of it, i'm sure.
ahihihihi
People who are brash and not image focused, people who are the opposite of sycophantic are maybe stereotypically the most trustworthy. - Steal City
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blackjacki2 United States. Dec 08 2009 21:33. Posts 2582
Athene's videos averaged over 1,000,000 views per video back in the day and his current videos still get 50,000-100,000 views. Does anyone here really think pokerstars gives a fuck that he is only a .35bb winner at nl100? Yes, he is only getting sponsored because of his "following" and not because of his poker skills and it's understandable how annoying that is especially considering how annoying a lot of his videos are. In the end pokerstars is a business and they will make the best business decisions. It's the same reason why I have to constantly hear about Jon and Kate Gosselin 24/7 or who Tiger Woods is currently sleeping with.
he used to be funny back in the day. saw him featured on attack of the show doing the exact same thing but only for WoW months ago, doing some sort of reality show and urging his "fans" to support him, he was also doing the exact same shit e.g. tania gf, furious(shirtless guy) and some other actors. really hilarious and i really followed it for months - good entertainment
it got old and i drew the line once he starting to switch "off character" along with furious and become serious about his poker dreams telling people to email stars,
im like, try to get beter at poker like the rest of us, coz there's no way ur freerolling ur way through that one at our expense sorry LOL
2p2 had a lot of new accounts with 10 or less posts (prob his WoW horde) too. i dunno if this is good for poker or not (obv stars will love this), coz all these guys are fuck-ass crazy grinders for free, god knows how they will grind poker when money's involved
im like, try to get beter at poker like the rest of us, coz there's no way ur freerolling ur way through that one at our expense sorry LOL
pokerstars marketing dude. and i def think he will freeroll his way to poker stardom. and i don't know if you can call it freerolling tho... he def put in some effort and some creativity in being noticed by his prospective future sponsors.
People who are brash and not image focused, people who are the opposite of sycophantic are maybe stereotypically the most trustworthy. - Steal City
2p2 had a lot of new accounts with 10 or less posts (prob his WoW horde) too. i dunno if this is good for poker or not (obv stars will love this), coz all these guys are fuck-ass crazy grinders for free, god knows how they will grind poker when money's involved
It's only the really hardcore WoW players who grind all day and even those guys wouldn't necessarily be good grinders in poker. It's not like Athene/Chiren is your average Joe... He's a top gamer and the kind of guy who would do good in anything he puts his mind to, same as Elky, Rekrul, Naz and all the other top players from starcraft here. Athene represents 0.01% of the WoW community, he's the exception not the norm. Most of the other WoW players are just as likely to be poker fish as anyone else.
2p2 had a lot of new accounts with 10 or less posts (prob his WoW horde) too. i dunno if this is good for poker or not (obv stars will love this), coz all these guys are fuck-ass crazy grinders for free, god knows how they will grind poker when money's involved
Most of the other WoW players are just as likely to be poker fish as anyone else.
same with starcraft players... sad to say
and more new player sign ups will always be good for the game. always.
People who are brash and not image focused, people who are the opposite of sycophantic are maybe stereotypically the most trustworthy. - Steal City
Seriously Athene was NOT good at WoW, his teams were shit and got stomped on many occasions, comparing him to top starcraft players is beyond ridiculous, especially seeing that SC is actually a skill based game where WoW is a rock-paper-scissor-fotm shitfest.
he flew to isle of mann coz he didnt get the pro status when it was announced, he wants to hand it over to scotty personally.
yeah i think he will probably get it coz it will encourage a lot of new players to the site, i give him props for doing much better in his first attempt at poker ( started at january, marginally winning or breaking 24tabling even playing over 2million hands to date ). which is really remarkable for a first timer just when 100nl FR got a bit tougher with all the 200 and 400 guys going for SNE moving down there.
but he's friends with 3j55 who also coaches him
i think he got staked in the beginning, coz i i recall he instantly jumped to 100nl starting jan, so i think he kinda lied about that
wow players are definitely sick grinders. i wouldnt categorize them as total fish when they populate poker too, id take recreational players over those guys
On December 08 2009 21:56 whamm! wrote:
i think he got staked in the beginning, coz i i recall he instantly jumped to 100nl starting jan, so i think he kinda lied about that
wow players are definitely sick grinders. i wouldnt categorize them as total fish when they populate poker too, id take recreational players over those guys
so all that 5 bucks to 100k in less than a year is a lie?
People who are brash and not image focused, people who are the opposite of sycophantic are maybe stereotypically the most trustworthy. - Steal City
On December 08 2009 21:56 whamm! wrote:
i think he got staked in the beginning, coz i i recall he instantly jumped to 100nl starting jan, so i think he kinda lied about that
wow players are definitely sick grinders. i wouldnt categorize them as total fish when they populate poker too, id take recreational players over those guys
so all that 5 bucks to 100k in less than a year is a lie?
He grinded from 2NL. He was never staked lol.
Anyways update: He went to isle of man and handed the application in person. He said PS has allowed them to release the footage so they'll put up a clip tomorrow.
how do you know he grinded 2nl, have you played with him during that time? i recall seeing him 24 tabling very early this year, like feb coz i was playing him everyday back then. seems too fast to move up to 100nl from 2nl in about two months 24 tabling. look at his ptr, he played 100nl since last year i think, so he tells everyone he started january with just 5bucks. ptr tracked hands since sept 08 with only but 100nl up hands. does not compute.
i just say he was prob staked if he didnt really deposit 4kusd immediately to 24 table 100nl. didnt say i knew it for a fact.
On December 09 2009 00:11 whamm! wrote:
how do you know he grinded 2nl, have you played with him during that time? i recall seeing him 24 tabling very early this year, like feb coz i was playing him everyday back then. seems too fast to move up to 100nl from 2nl in about two months 24 tabling. look at his ptr, he played 100nl since last year i think, so he tells everyone he started january with just 5bucks. ptr tracked hands since sept 08 with only but 100nl up hands. does not compute.
i just say he was prob staked if he didnt really deposit 4kusd immediately to 24 table 100nl. didnt say i knew it for a fact.
FINALLY SOMEONE NOTICES!! lol. This guy said in 1 of his videos that he went from 5$ to 100K$ in less than 1 year. LOL. with his winrate at nl100 it would take him 5 years!! CMON SON!!! Ok so he gets rakeback, do you really think he made 88K$ of rake back in the last year. Also , how the hell was he playing nl100 with a 5$ bankroll???? Yeah so the kid is persistant, but he is also a liar!
Also someone said PS will make him a pro because its all marketing. LOL. If that were the case they would tell him to applie to there marketing departement and give him a fkin desk job !!! Pros have to score in big tourneys and get noticed by having big wins so that people will think playing on PS made them really good . They dont make you a pro cause you got lots of friends or cause you have many views on youtube OR because you played a million hands in december and finished down 1K$! LOL. Honestly people this guy is an actor and he is putting on a good show, but the things he sais arent tru and if he gets PS pro then ill live stream myself playing poker for 1 month and tell people a bunch of BS and get PS pro also!!! lol.
On December 09 2009 00:11 whamm! wrote:
how do you know he grinded 2nl, have you played with him during that time? i recall seeing him 24 tabling very early this year, like feb coz i was playing him everyday back then. seems too fast to move up to 100nl from 2nl in about two months 24 tabling. look at his ptr, he played 100nl since last year i think, so he tells everyone he started january with just 5bucks. ptr tracked hands since sept 08 with only but 100nl up hands. does not compute.
i just say he was prob staked if he didnt really deposit 4kusd immediately to 24 table 100nl. didnt say i knew it for a fact.
FINALLY SOMEONE NOTICES!! lol. This guy said in 1 of his videos that he went from 5$ to 100K$ in less than 1 year. LOL. with his winrate at nl100 it would take him 5 years!! CMON SON!!! Ok so he gets rakeback, do you really think he made 88K$ of rake back in the last year. Also , how the hell was he playing nl100 with a 5$ bankroll???? Yeah so the kid is persistant, but he is also a liar!
Also someone said PS will make him a pro because its all marketing. LOL. If that were the case they would tell him to applie to there marketing departement and give him a fkin desk job !!! Pros have to score in big tourneys and get noticed by having big wins so that people will think playing on PS made them really good . They dont make you a pro cause you got lots of friends or cause you have many views on youtube OR because you played a million hands in december and finished down 1K$! LOL. Honestly people this guy is an actor and he is putting on a good show, but the things he sais arent tru and if he gets PS pro then ill live stream myself playing poker for 1 month and tell people a bunch of BS and get PS pro also!!! lol.
wtf you fucking mad about? jesus...
but i agree. what a big liar lying about making 5 bucks to 100k in less than a year! fucking nit noob mother fucking grandmotherfucker! hihihihi
People who are brash and not image focused, people who are the opposite of sycophantic are maybe stereotypically the most trustworthy. - Steal City
Dont you respect the dedication of this guy atleast? How is he a retard I dont understand?
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Big_Rob_48 United States. Dec 09 2009 04:15. Posts 3432
I like him, I think he is a goofy guy and slightly good for poker. My friend showed me his WOW videos 2 years ago so I have known about him for a while and I think he is a lot more inventive than most people out there, all the hate for him is just a waste of energy relax guys
My AIM sn if you want to chat: YoRobbyMiller
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terrybunny19240 United States. Dec 09 2009 04:23. Posts 13829
retards PTR didn't track microstakes until a couple of months ago
On December 09 2009 03:23 Night2o1 wrote:
retards PTR didn't track microstakes until a couple of months ago
fucking idiots rofl
Well what Whamm is saying is he has already been tracked at 100nl for a year pretty much so he couldn't have grinded all the way from 2NL in less than a year. A valid point. However, what we do know from PTR is that he has played over 2.5mil hands@ 100nl, making around 13k profit. Add to that, being a supernova and playing 2.5mil hands with cash bonuses and milestones it's pretty clear that he has made over 100k. he shows it in his video as well. So we know that he's not lying about that.
As for grinding from 2NL with 5$, I searched around a bit and I've found hands of him playing 2NL-25NL. Those hands date back to late april 2008 (NL2) and mid may (NL 25). So he did infact grind his way up, although he started earlier than he claims.
On December 09 2009 03:23 Night2o1 wrote:
retards PTR didn't track microstakes until a couple of months ago
fucking idiots rofl
Well what Whamm is saying is he has already been tracked at 100nl for a year pretty much so he couldn't have grinded all the way from 2NL in less than a year. A valid point. However, what we do know from PTR is that he has played over 2.5mil hands@ 100nl, making around 13k profit. Add to that, being a supernova and playing 2.5mil hands with cash bonuses and milestones it's pretty clear that he has made over 100k. he shows it in his video as well. So we know that he's not lying about that.
As for grinding from 2NL with 5$, I searched around a bit and I've found hands of him playing 2NL-25NL. Those hands date back to late april 2008 (NL2) and mid may (NL 25). So he did infact grind his way up, although he started earlier than he claims.
so he didn't lie?
People who are brash and not image focused, people who are the opposite of sycophantic are maybe stereotypically the most trustworthy. - Steal City
On December 09 2009 03:23 Night2o1 wrote:
retards PTR didn't track microstakes until a couple of months ago
fucking idiots rofl
Well what Whamm is saying is he has already been tracked at 100nl for a year pretty much so he couldn't have grinded all the way from 2NL in less than a year. A valid point. However, what we do know from PTR is that he has played over 2.5mil hands@ 100nl, making around 13k profit. Add to that, being a supernova and playing 2.5mil hands with cash bonuses and milestones it's pretty clear that he has made over 100k. he shows it in his video as well. So we know that he's not lying about that.
As for grinding from 2NL with 5$, I searched around a bit and I've found hands of him playing 2NL-25NL. Those hands date back to late april 2008 (NL2) and mid may (NL 25). So he did infact grind his way up, although he started earlier than he claims.
so he didn't lie?
Not about the 100k and grinding it up but he did seem to embellish the amount of time he has been playing poker. Still a year and a half to achieve that is very respectable as well.
Anyways update from Isle of Man about his meeting with the PS representative and the challenge. The connection there is shitty so the stream quality was obviously not great at all times.
i agree he's made 100k for sure since he grinded like a mofo since jan this year at 100nl and even made like 15k in profits, he just hyped and made it look like some random wow guy deposits 5bucks to make his journey more pokerstars proish lol
seriously idve believed it completely if he had said he deposited 50usd since its been done by a lot of the highstakes guys here, but even then a lot of those guys didnt make the 100k in less than a year from 50usd
On December 09 2009 00:11 whamm! wrote:
how do you know he grinded 2nl, have you played with him during that time? i recall seeing him 24 tabling very early this year, like feb coz i was playing him everyday back then. seems too fast to move up to 100nl from 2nl in about two months 24 tabling. look at his ptr, he played 100nl since last year i think, so he tells everyone he started january with just 5bucks. ptr tracked hands since sept 08 with only but 100nl up hands. does not compute.
i just say he was prob staked if he didnt really deposit 4kusd immediately to 24 table 100nl. didnt say i knew it for a fact.
FINALLY SOMEONE NOTICES!! lol. This guy said in 1 of his videos that he went from 5$ to 100K$ in less than 1 year. LOL. with his winrate at nl100 it would take him 5 years!! CMON SON!!! Ok so he gets rakeback, do you really think he made 88K$ of rake back in the last year. Also , how the hell was he playing nl100 with a 5$ bankroll???? Yeah so the kid is persistant, but he is also a liar!
Also someone said PS will make him a pro because its all marketing. LOL. If that were the case they would tell him to applie to there marketing departement and give him a fkin desk job !!! Pros have to score in big tourneys and get noticed by having big wins so that people will think playing on PS made them really good . They dont make you a pro cause you got lots of friends or cause you have many views on youtube OR because you played a million hands in december and finished down 1K$! LOL. Honestly people this guy is an actor and he is putting on a good show, but the things he sais arent tru and if he gets PS pro then ill live stream myself playing poker for 1 month and tell people a bunch of BS and get PS pro also!!! lol.
Except nobody will watch your stream and nobody will care so you will never get pro. Being a pro is pretty much entirely about marketing. You make pretty poor business decisions if you have soemone that plays poker for your website and has thousands of people that watch him play and promote the website and you think he should be behind a desk instead of playing.
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dogmeat Czech Republic. Dec 09 2009 08:15. Posts 6374
moneymaker is pro too, isnt he?
ban baal
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Critterer United Kingdom. Dec 09 2009 11:49. Posts 5337
well hes obv made ~100k this year from milestones and stuff and there was a screenshot of his BR of just over 100k so yes its not outlandish to think he started earlier this year
if u dont think supernova elite in first year is a big achievement mayb you should check some of the other players who got it this year from nl100.... lots of them are actually LOSING players, so to make it off the bat and breakeven is fairly decent imo.
On December 09 2009 10:49 Critterer wrote:
well hes obv made ~100k this year from milestones and stuff and there was a screenshot of his BR of just over 100k so yes its not outlandish to think he started earlier this year
if u dont think supernova elite in first year is a big achievement mayb you should check some of the other players who got it this year from nl100.... lots of them are actually LOSING players, so to make it off the bat and breakeven is fairly decent imo.
yeah to ppl hatin: try makin SNE on nl100 with 2bb/100 winrate
Chiren's 0,5bb/100 is pretty good considering he always 24tables, and including RB/bonuses he makes more than some 2-3bb/100 winners at nl100 who dont play much
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KingSpades United States. Dec 09 2009 15:32. Posts 119
so he basically said hes not going for a million hands anymore, anyone listening to his stream? he gave up zzz
hes thinking about trying again in february, in a race with other hardcore grinders, sounds interesting
On December 09 2009 14:32 KingSpades wrote:
so he basically said hes not going for a million hands anymore, anyone listening to his stream? he gave up zzz
hes thinking about trying again in february, in a race with other hardcore grinders, sounds interesting
Yea he said that when he talked to Scotty (PS representative) he told him that he was aware of the challenge and even tuned it to the stream a few times but he said it's not the best way to promote PS cause it doesn't really promote responsible gaming. So Athene has decided to stop the challenge since it's actually hurting his chances to become PS pro.
He also said that if he doesn't win PS pro on the 23rd he's planning to reach SNE by that time so he's going to party anyways lol.
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