200PLO - Some 3bet pots

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Hand #1

Villain is a 30/20 multitabler. No real history. Do I cbet?

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Hand #2

Villain is a 25/17 tag. No history.
I wasn't sure what to do with this flop... I considered c/shove since my draw kind of sucks but I get it in really, really gross most of the time. And I'm not sure how good cbetting this flop is - it hits all his broadway stuff and there's a flushdraw out there :/

C/F best?
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Hand #3

Villain is 32/23 with a 17% 3bet. Might view me as a bit weak since I've folded to a couple of his 3bets, but I don't know for sure. Obviously his range is faaaaaaaar from just AA** so I don't really know how to continue in this hand... Which makes me question whether I should even play it preflop. This deep I'm unsure whether I should technically be folding anything in position, but at the same time he seems competent and is probably better at PLO than me so I'm not sure how much postflop pressure I'll be able to really exert.
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hand 1:
I would bet 3/4 and fold to reraise on the flop and pot any card that hits us.

hand 2:
i wouldn't check raise ever a tight guy oop, ur flushes are dead most of the time. reverse implied odds imo. C/F it is.

hand 3:
I would reraise pot. His bet looks really weak so he can have anything here. When u reraise pot, u rep a pretty slim range.

In hand 3, note that we start the hand almost 150bb deep. So when I raise my bottom two here, it's almost like a pure bluff right? I can't actually get it in here profitably or am I wrong?

Like, if I raise here and he ships over me, with no history, I feel like it's a set or a straight like always without a better read?

hand 1 i would c bet because that's a board that is good for the AA or KK you are supposed to be representing and unlikely to have hit your opponent.

The turn is a good card which gives us a pair and oesd and more importantly compltes the rainbow board. Your opponent could have pair and draw so that turn doesn't help his hand, so betting is good as well.

hand 2

i would check fold as it hits a lot of his range here and your flush might be no good if opponent gets it in with a draw and is competent he will have fd+wrap or something or a set.

hand 3 sure your opponent could have hit that board hard, but there are sooooooooo many other hands that won't like that board, like overpairs and higher wraps. I would definitely raise and obv call a shove.

Hand 1 --> Yes bet the flop. It would be a great flop for AAxx/KKxx type hands especially because you have two BDFD's. Turn is a good card for you so I'm for sure firing again. Especially if you know villain would have re-shoved super strong draws + 2p type hands on the flop (which most people do because people with AAxx/KKxx rarely fold in that situation).

Hand 2 --> I probably would not 3-bet 5577ds. I'm not sure about the correctness of that opinion however. Once you get to the flop its really a crap-shoot. Either he connected or he didn't. Probably more of is range connects than doesn't - unless he calls your 3-bets sick light. However you having 5577 makes it a lot less likely for him to have a baby run-down. Check-fold might actually be best unfortunately.

Hand 3 --> I think having the ace in your hand (despite the A-high flush opportunity) makes your hand a lot worse. I hate calling 3-bets with an Axxx type hand. That being said once you get to the flop he's got to think that is the lowest part of your range so its a may as well bet situation for him regardless of what he's got. I'm raising the flop and I'd have a lot of difficulty folding if he shoved over. Especially if he's a bully in 3-bet pots.

1. bet bet I think
2. Check/fold, bet some turns if he checks behind flop.
3. I'd start out with calling.

OK hand 3:
I call, turn is a King, he bets pot. I fold.

Now, a few people have said raise/call his cbet on this hand and I really need it explained to me I think... On this board, once I raise, am I just hoping he decides to rebluff me with something like... a pair and a gutshot or something? It just seems like an unlikely board for a random AA to stack off on.

Is it just sort of because it makes the hand easier to play, then once I raise I'm commited and call it off?

hand 1: i cbet flop and pot most turns
hand 2: i wouldn't 3bet pf. why. that said, c/f
hand 3: nothing is good but calling



ok looking at ur last post, turn is K he bets pot u fold. that sounds good unless he is a maniac. as long as u flat 67 on this flop i think its fine to fold the turn

Am i the only one who bets flop in hand 2?

Well, at the time I bet it (37 into 43 IIRC). He called and I c/f on a Kc or Ks turn after he bet pot.

Do you think 3betting with that type of hand is worse than calling them? I've always been told set-mining is much worse in omaha, and to watch out for low pairs so I figured 3betting would be better since it gives me a shot at winning the pot un-improved, makes running into a higher set less of a problem (people stack off lighter in 3bet pots) and might make my draws more live (although I'm not sure if this one applies as much when the pot is guaranteed to be heads-up anyway).

I feel like if I have people that might call behind me (say I was in the SB or if I was in maybe the CO), it'd become a clear 3bet?

bet hand 1, pot any "good" turn for us
bet hand 2
call hand 3

On October 23 2009 11:35 TianYuan wrote: Well, at the time I bet it (37 into 43 IIRC). He called and I c/f on a Kc or Ks turn after he bet pot. Do you think 3betting with that type of hand is worse than calling them? I've always been told set-mining is much worse in omaha, and to watch out for low pairs so I figured 3betting would be better since it gives me a shot at winning the pot un-improved, makes running into a higher set less of a problem (people stack off lighter in 3bet pots) and might make my draws more live (although I'm not sure if this one applies as much when the pot is guaranteed to be heads-up anyway). I feel like if I have people that might call behind me (say I was in the SB or if I was in maybe the CO), it'd become a clear 3bet?

if hes weak and straightforward i 3bet it all day
if hes crazy and stacks off very light i 3bet it all day
otherwise i call.

Hand one is a pot, and get it in. Good enough turn, and he could be floating, and he could be calling with some silly QQxx or Txxx thats going to fold now.
Hand two is a bet again. Checking makes it somewhat obvious that you are giving up, and KQ is almost certainly going to call rather than raise, giving you a free card or two. I'm not a huge fan of preflop though.
Hand three is an easy call. You generally have him beat, but raising is a negative freeroll. I guess you could be bluffing him off of 56AA but still, just call. Even if you're behind you have a few outs at worst. This hand gets interesting on a blank turn. This is really difficult if he bets the turn. I probably check behind if he checks, but if he bets, I'd flip a coin, I'd like to hear someone elses opinion about it.