25PLO bad or standard??

I know that i obv dont have the best hand but these are the good kinda hands to cack AAxx
but is it bad in a multiway pot??? am thinkin this is kinda sandard but everyone at the table was saying that was a horrible play and its never ok.....

Submitted by : CT_rider

PokerStars Game #33549001877: Omaha Pot Limit ($0.10/$0.25 USD) - 2009/10/02 13:57:16 ET
Table Phoenix X 6-max Seat #3 is the button
Seat 1: Hero ($25 in chips)
Seat 2: COCOWASH ($24.40 in chips)
Seat 3: Dar317 ($17.40 in chips)
Seat 4: Cleiton-Br ($14.60 in chips)
Seat 5: spotza ($21 in chips)
Seat 6: aang999 ($49.20 in chips)
Cleiton-Br: posts small blind $0.10
spotza: posts big blind $0.25

Holecards(Odds)
Dealt to Hero
aang999: calls $0.25
Hero: raises $0.85 to $1.10
COCOWASH: folds
Dar317: calls $1.10
Cleiton-Br: folds
spotza: folds
aang999: raises $3.65 to $4.75
Hero: calls $3.65
Dar317: raises $12.65 to $17.40 and is all-in
aang999: raises $31.80 to $49.20 and is all-in
Hero: calls $20.25 and is all-in
Uncalled bet ($24.20) returned to aang999

Flop(Odds) (Pot : $67.75)

   

Turn(Odds) (Pot : $67.75)

   

River (Pot : $67.75)

   

Showdown
aang999: shows (a pair of Aces)
Hero: shows (a straight, Five to Nine)
Hero collected $14.80 from side pot
Dar317: shows (a pair of Jacks)
Hero collected $49.95 from main pot

Summary
Total pot $67.75 Main pot $49.95. Side pot $14.80. | Rake $3
Board  
Seat 1: Hero showed and won ($64.75) with a straight, Five to Nine
Seat 2: COCOWASH folded before Flop (didnt bet)
Seat 3: Dar317 (button) showed and lost with a pair of Jacks
Seat 4: Cleiton-Br (small blind) folded before Flop
Seat 5: spotza (big blind) folded before Flop
Seat 6: aang999 showed and lost with a pair of Aces

how said it was horrible? the guy with trips Js... XD

standard.. a lot of times they will both show up with high cards leaving all the low cards to hit the board

or both having AAxx, which you'll be ahead of as well.

lol, trip jacks prolly doesn't even understand that only two cards from your hand can be used.

It's standard if you like high-variance. The majority of the time the other players will have AAxx + 4 cards over 10. The problem is a lot of people also play/stack with crappy AAxx type hands that have two low cards which can block you out a bit.

std
you should of berated the guy with 3 jacks if he called your play bad !

On October 03 2009 11:23 dahornnn wrote: std you should of berated the guy with 3 jacks if he called your play bad !

No, you apologize for sucking out on him since he had you pre. Remember, we don't want them to play differently

no matter how you tweak your opp ranges you have about 1/3 equity, so it's ... marginal ... when we factor in the rake, maybe even EV- (didn't do the math)

folding is still not that bad since:
1) you didn't invest much in the first place
2) you reduce the variance (and consequently tilt)

your hand is nice to call 3bet and possibly crack aces, but AI PF ... I still prefer real rundowns, not gappers and 2x suited if possible

EDIT: but if you are vs bigger rundowns like 789T or 89TJ with 1x or 2x suited your EV drops a lot, in extreme case down to like 1/4

Oh, and vs AAxx you're only 41% (not that good as it looks like)

Probably 50/50 IMO, really just depends if you mind the variance. The 3 jacks is pretty hilarious though :D

This is bad. Double suited and no gaps, then you can probably get it in. You have 33% equity at best, and if these players are good enough to shove rundown hands, or bad enough (lulz) then you can be crushed.

u should fold this pf because you are utg and this hand isnt very good (this hand is top 40% and we normally open something like top 15%?)
Versus tight opponents I get it in (who go all in only with AAxx) , versus more laggy thinking players I tend to fold. Versus theses idiots I call.This absolutely great situation for you...One idiot gets it in with AKQQ which is in 95% cases dominated by AAxx and the 2nd moron is drunken or he played it for the first time (his hand is TOP 99% = its only better than 1% of all hands).I play PLO 50 on FT and there are a lot of thinking players who will get it in pf with premium rundowns that dominate your hand so thats why I tend to fold to these quys.

ya fold this pf plo cus oop + utg maybe on the button this is playable

Folding this preflop in any position is atrocious. Sometimes raising and sometimes limping is fine here. I like your call of the reraise, since aang's range is heavily towards good aces with his EP limp-reraise, and he will probably stack off with an overpair on the flop with this potsize. Calling the shove is marginal since you cover one of the all-in players by a lot, but it's not bad. I prefer to make these calls for the "wtf?" factor. You'll get more action.

I think it's like semi-bad to raise pf (you should probably just fold) but once you raise it's not much you can do.