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Ket    United Kingdom. Sep 01 2009 13:01. Posts 8665

Here are the parts I am thinking of buying to put together a poker rig. I have no experience in building comps before but have just done a bit of reading around to find out what is what. I'd really like any feedback and advise I can get on this before I go ahead and start buying. Please also assume no knowledge and let me know if I've made some catastrophic mistakes like completely forgetting about a crucial part or getting bits that arent compatible.

My intended use will be mainly playing poker and heavily multitasking windows apps with a two-monitor setup including a 30inch (2560x1600) and a 20inch turned sideways (1200x1600), with also a light bit of gaming (just starcraft 2 when it comes out, nothing super demanding).


Case
Coolermaster Silver Stacker 831 - No PSU
http://www.ebuyer.com/product/128508

Power supply
Coolermaster Silent Pro 500W Modular PSU
http://www.ebuyer.com/product/147112

Motherboard
Asus P5Q3 DELUXE/WIFI-AP P45 Socket 775 8 channel audio ATX Motherboard With 2GB Ram
http://www.ebuyer.com/product/168085

Extra RAM
http://www.ebuyer.com/product/148818
Corsair 4GB (2x2GB) DDR3 1600MHz/PC3-12800 XMS3 DHX Memory Kit

So I have 6gb RAM in total:
2GB DDR3 1333 DUAL CHANNEL KIT that comes with the motherboard
and the above 4gb corsair DDR3 1600 kit


Processor
Intel Core 2 Quad Q9550 2.83GHz (FSB 1333MHz) Socket 775 L2 12MB Cache Retail Boxed
http://www.ebuyer.com/product/141515

CPU Cooler/heatsink (to replace the one that comes with the processor, as recommended by some guy's user review on that site)
Arctic Cooling AC-FRZ-7P Freezer 7 Pro Socket 775 Processor Cooler
http://www.ebuyer.com/product/105994

Graphics Card
XFX HD 4850 1GB DDR3 Dual DVI HDCP HDTV out PCI-E Graphics Card
http://www.ebuyer.com/product/168453

Hard Drive
Western Digital 1TB Hard Drive SATAII 32MB Cache - OEM Caviar Green
http://www.ebuyer.com/product/150245

DVD Drive
LG GH22NS40 22X SATA DVD±RW/DL/RAM Black Bare Drive - OEM
http://www.ebuyer.com/product/151999

An extra fan cause why not? (3 fans in total inc the 2 that come with case - should i get another one still??)
Antec TriCool 120mm DBB Case Fan
http://www.ebuyer.com/product/82253

Operating system
Microsoft Windows Vista Business w/SP1 - W/ Windows 7 Upgrade Offer Form - licence and media - 1 PC - OEM - DVD - 64-bit - English
http://www.ebuyer.com/product/167589


Comes to total of £826 which I am fairly happy with as I budgeted £1000 or under if possible before I started


Any glaring ommissions or suggestions for improvements? Is the RAM going to be OK? There are 4 DIMM slots on the motherboard so I was thinking I'd put the two 1333MHz 1GBs that come with the motherboard on first on separate channels, installing the OS and then adding the pair of 2GB corsairs in the 2 remaining DIMM slots and getting them set up in the BIOS. This would work right? I am assuming 500W PSU should be plenty, am I okay with 3 case fans total? My case has room for NINE 120mm fans but I don't want to overdo it due to noise issues. Maybe I should get 4-5 total?

Again thanks in advance for any feedback you experts can give on this (help me locoooooooo!!!!!)

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Loco   Canada. Sep 01 2009 13:14. Posts 21017

eh, i don't have time to go over it all right now but i might later. just know that you cannot (well you can, but it's highly unrecommended) mix two different brands of ram together. and not only that those have different default clocks. either get the same that comes with the mobo or ditch it and get the corsair.

and just from real quick observations: i'd go for a corsair PSU and an nvidia video card

fuck I should just sell some of my Pokemon cards, if no one stakes that is what I will have to do - lostaccountLast edit: 01/09/2009 13:17

Ket    United Kingdom. Sep 01 2009 13:23. Posts 8665

ah ok tys


CrownRoyal   United States. Sep 01 2009 13:24. Posts 11386

as far as ram goes I think that 4gb will do for you exactly what 6 would do.

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NotSorry   United States. Sep 01 2009 13:25. Posts 2603

For sure drop the mobo packaged ram and get 2 sets of those 4gb corsairs, I find 8gb ram is a must if you're running vista. Personally had some issues with the WD caviar green series including 2 dead on arrivals and one that lasted little over 60days, would suggest a seagate barracuda series in it's place.

We have now sunk to a depth at which restatement of the obvious is the first duty of intelligent men. 

Ket    United Kingdom. Sep 01 2009 13:27. Posts 8665

noted, thanks. 8gb ram does sound pretty ballin and i certainly dont want hard drives that dont work!

 Last edit: 01/09/2009 13:28

Ket    United Kingdom. Sep 01 2009 13:28. Posts 8665


  On September 01 2009 12:24 CrownRoyal wrote:
as far as ram goes I think that 4gb will do for you exactly what 6 would do.


hmm actually yes you may be right, I read on 2+2 that for decently heavy poker use 4gb is the 'sweet spot'


NotSorry   United States. Sep 01 2009 13:29. Posts 2603

You can get by on 4gb for just poker but you said you would be multitasking/lite gaming as well which would bump you into the 8gb range

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CrownRoyal   United States. Sep 01 2009 13:30. Posts 11386

im really not qualified to talk in this thread and will probably get owned because im so 2002 with my computer nerd knowledge. BUT as far as i know there is almost no circumstance where you need 6gb of ram or more, but im pretty sure notsorry has built even more computers with better knowledge than i have and he is saying go for 8, so wait for someone to refute what i said or reassure you.

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NotSorry   United States. Sep 01 2009 13:39. Posts 2603

Well it isn't like you can't just buy an extra 4gb set a week later if you find yourself taxing out your system, so it's really a personal choice. I use 8gb because I go over 55% when playing a game while watching movies and ram is so cheap these days just figure why not.

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ggplz   Sweden. Sep 01 2009 13:43. Posts 16784

4gb ram is totally fine
i have 8gb and it gives me some peace of mind knowing im very rarely gonna use that much (i have several times though)

if poker is dangerous to them i would rank sports betting as a Kodiak grizzly bear who smells blood after you just threw a javelin into his cub - RaiNKhAN 

NewbSaibot   United States. Sep 01 2009 13:48. Posts 4949

the only reason to get 6gb right now is if youre going for the new corei7 type build. 4gb is plenty of vista. I have a vista box that runs Crysis, Farcry2, Fallout3, all the latest games just fine on 4gb. Certainly not any less though. 8gb is massive overkill even for multi-tasking. Im at work right now so Ill take a stab at the build too. Ultimately its not horribly wrong or anything, if you put this together it will boot. Just a few mismatched parts that dont compliment each other very well, possible bottlenecking etc.

bye now 

Loco   Canada. Sep 01 2009 13:52. Posts 21017

people are very confused about RAM in this day and age. they don't understand the major difference between how XP and Vista manages ram. let's just say very briefly that you cannot have too much ram with Vista 64-bit. it makes use of superfetch and will preload applications in memory, which means that the more memory you have, the faster everything will load. if xp 32-bit could handle 8gb of ram, it would not be able to utilize more than half of it, but vista will always use most of it, and freeing it up whenever necessary. it will also make you be able to make only a very small pagefile on your hard drive (if any) so that ram is used instead of hard drive cache (ram is extremely faster).

if we consider the cheap price of RAM nowadays it's pretty much a no brainer for all new builds with vista 64 to get 8gb ram

fuck I should just sell some of my Pokemon cards, if no one stakes that is what I will have to do - lostaccount 

dahornnn   United Kingdom. Sep 01 2009 13:53. Posts 693

i run everything fine on vista with 2gig ddr 3, so 4 will be plenty imo but if you find yourself somehow needing more its very easy to ship and stick some more in


Loco   Canada. Sep 01 2009 13:55. Posts 21017

the only people who will ever say "its not necessary to get more than X amount of RAM" are either running xp or are running vista 64 but never upgraded their RAM to test it themselves.

the difference was like night and day for me going from 4 to 8. everything runs smoothly with 4gb but if you want a good experience of vista that's the strict minimum if you ask me.

fuck I should just sell some of my Pokemon cards, if no one stakes that is what I will have to do - lostaccountLast edit: 01/09/2009 13:57

CrownRoyal   United States. Sep 01 2009 13:59. Posts 11386

hmm maybe i should buy another stick to throw in my laptop, i'm curious.

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NotSorry   United States. Sep 01 2009 14:04. Posts 2603


  On September 01 2009 12:52 Loco wrote:
people are very confused about RAM in this day and age. they don't understand the major difference between how XP and Vista manages ram. let's just say very briefly that you cannot have too much ram with Vista 64-bit. it makes use of superfetch and will preload applications in memory, which means that the more memory you have, the faster everything will load. if xp 32-bit could handle 8gb of ram, it would not be able to utilize more than half of it, but vista will always use most of it, and freeing it up whenever necessary. it will also make you be able to make only a very small pagefile on your hard drive (if any) so that ram is used instead of hard drive cache (ram is extremely faster).

if we consider the cheap price of RAM nowadays it's pretty much a no brainer for all new builds with vista 64 to get 8gb ram

Sounds like a direct quote from an Anandtech review, but I strongly agree with it

We have now sunk to a depth at which restatement of the obvious is the first duty of intelligent men. 

hansen jr.   Sweden. Sep 01 2009 14:07. Posts 3735

idk a lot about this but wouldnt it be sexy to get a 10k rpm hdd to use for vista + programs?


CrownRoyal   United States. Sep 01 2009 14:11. Posts 11386

that's so sick.

vista the programs i use most preloaded into the ram for quicker load times??? And when it needs to close out of those programs for more ram it does it its self?

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AndrewSong    United States. Sep 01 2009 14:17. Posts 2355

If your planning to use this setup for 2+ yrs u should scratch the quad core and go with the i7. I'm running on Q9550 right now but after toying with i7 last week i'm sold


 
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