NL100 Preflop Stacks go in Analysis

I just looked at my All-in EV with hands other than AA and KK preflop in 6 max and it's pretty negative. Obviously a lot of these plays are EV+ with dead money in the pot at the time , but I wanted to compare graphs to see if this was normal. Obviously, sample size is small and should be treated as such. 6-Max only please (my graph says it includes HU, but it doesn't other than when I start tables). Share yours, I'm not really looking for advice, I just wanted to compare to see if this is normal.

is this right

+ 315 bb for me
ev is -1645 bb

405 samples.

i run good.

wat

meh my graph looks exactly like sicks macks..confused what the reason for this thread is though

These shoves are what gets your KK/AA called preflop; though tbh I'm not sure that holds water considering I can't imagine you ever need to 5b semibluffshove with Axs or whatever at 100nl.

On June 24 2009 03:25 JonnyCosMo wrote: wat

On June 24 2009 02:24 vlseph wrote: + 315 bb for me ev is -1645 bb 405 samples. i run good.

rofl that's really sick =o

wonder if this is calculated right (or messed up due to multiway pots w/ shortstacks or something), our graphs look really similar and its kind of odd

On June 24 2009 06:04 Oly wrote: These shoves are what gets your KK/AA called preflop; though tbh I'm not sure that holds water considering I can't imagine you ever need to 5b semibluffshove with Axs or whatever at 100nl.

obviously, I'm not trying to change my range here so much, just making sure it's not a leak.

On June 24 2009 04:44 palak wrote: confused what the reason for this thread is though

On June 24 2009 00:49 Sicks Macks wrote: I'm not really looking for advice, I just wanted to compare to see if this is normal.

show us hands this graph is almost meaningless
maybe you over react in some spots and 5b shove 88,99 or smt?

play like 80k more hands and then come back. we'll see then.

On June 24 2009 13:40 YoMeR wrote: play like 80k more hands and then come back. we'll see then.

the 8k hands in the graph aren't all his hands, just the hands he got it in with that aren't KK/AA

This forum is super frustrating sometimes. Do you people even read threads, or just comment? (Not directed at everybody obv)

For the final time:

I'm not looking for advice.
I don't care about sample size (mine or anyone elses)


All I want is to compare a bunch of different samples

On June 24 2009 13:40 YoMeR wrote: play like 80k more hands and then come back. we'll see then.

His graph has to be for like 1mil hands... Anyaway I dont see how removing the top of your range adds to anything unless you are looking to make up leaks that arent even there ??

Just to clarify, the 85 and 86 got smushed together. It's 86 preflop all-ins without the nuts (AA, KK) over like 50k hands or so. I really don't care what my results are now, but I want to see what I should expect if I'm doing things right or wrong as I play more hands. I just included mine as an example.

I would give you my stats for this, but when I tilt it tends to be with preflop shoves, so I already know I have a leak there.

if I had to guess, I'd say many people are nits who overplay hands and think its standard when tey run into a bigger hand

you're comparing samples of different play styles, how can this data have any meaning? the only conclusion you could draw would be how good/bad you run in EV in comparison to others, which in the long run would be even anyway