NL200 SH of Fold

On June 21 2009 17:00 jasper5408 wrote: -15 hands -he's sitting with 500+ -you haven't seen him do this easy fold. he prob owns ppl who count heavily on software for reads and gets shoved light by ppl who have TT - QQ while he holds the AA KK AK

I strongly doubt 1-tabling lagtards know how to count or know anything about software. It could be a fold but def not for the reasons you are listing...

15 hands? cmon, you dont even know if he is 1 tabling then, he might be just waiting for more tables, also he bought in for 200bb? ez fold

what is ur stars screenname?

If I'm sure he's a fish, I probably ship as wide as AQ+, 77+ here.

On June 21 2009 17:18 MysticJoey wrote: 15 hands? cmon, you dont even know if he is 1 tabling then, he might be just waiting for more tables, also he bought in for 200bb? ez fold

He did not buy in for 200. THis is Stars. He has 250BBs. Means he's been there for a while.
Means he is 1-tabling.

Fold until you see evidence of more serious brain damage.

I'm not saying this can't be a fold, I just really disagree with your guys' reasoning.

Basically, can we do the reasoning with the assumption that the plays is as I describe him. Would you play all-in here vs a maniac?

And if not, what hands would you play all-in with?

I feel that shoving is really high variance and I don't think we're ahead much so I might just fold it and see wtf he's up too. To tired to count on how high bullshit % he has to have before we can shove, but I feel that he has to be full of it fairly often before we can do much. I'd much prefer AQs I think, but I'd have to stove it.

I agree with EvilSky and Dusty

On June 21 2009 17:39 phexac wrote: Basically, can we do the reasoning with the assumption that the plays is as I describe him. Would you play all-in here vs a maniac?

If he is known maniac prob ship JJ+, AK+, maybe AQs....his 3bet raise is rediculous, seems like he would do this with a really strong hand so I think i would treat him as a normal person in this scenario til truly proven he is batshit insane then ship with like 99+/AQ+ or 88/AJs if truly insane

i dont see whats wrong with folding here and shipping a better hand?

If he was so strong why would he raise so much...
Looks like a flip, and he can have lower pockets sometimes so i think we're about 55-60% ahead, a bit high variance shove but i'd do it.

check the hand history, if hes won something like 10 of the last 20 pots or whatever the number may be reshove
if not, then fold

On June 22 2009 14:03 TalentedTom wrote: check the hand history, if hes won something like 10 of the last 20 pots or whatever the number may be reshove if not, then fold

this is good. "fold unless..." is a much better way of thinking vs this kinda player imo.

On June 21 2009 17:35 EvilSky wrote: Fold until you see evidence of more serious brain damage.

i spit up my beverage

Was he stealing blinds or something? I mean this is like 3 orbits, 2 of them he could have been blind thieving, the others he could have just been running hot. Damn 70/50 isnt all THAT alarming, it does happen on occasion.

On June 21 2009 17:35 EvilSky wrote: Fold until you see evidence of more serious brain damage.

loooooooooool

On June 21 2009 18:55 palak wrote: Show nested quote + On June 21 2009 17:39 phexac wrote: Basically, can we do the reasoning with the assumption that the plays is as I describe him. Would you play all-in here vs a maniac? If he is known maniac prob ship JJ+, AK+, maybe AQs....his 3bet raise is rediculous, seems like he would do this with a really strong hand so I think i would treat him as a normal person in this scenario til truly proven he is batshit insane then ship with like 99+/AQ+ or 88/AJs if truly insane

Nice range vs maniac, good thing we may sometimes ship absolute nuts in the form of AQs. I also like the major change against tight players of not including JJ.