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phexac   United States. Jun 21 2009 16:06. Posts 2563 | | | |
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staxxx   Bulgaria. Jun 21 2009 16:41. Posts 652 | | | |
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ytricky   Germany. Jun 21 2009 16:48. Posts 600 | | |
seems extremly bad vs a a 50/10 its a 4 card straight man. You are probably gonna get snapped by, KT KJ KQ T8 J8 Q8 and AK. You may get crying calls from JT T9 J9 JQ Q9 and QT thats it and remember you got QQ so that eliminates alot of combinations, here, more then for his calling range.
Really this seems like a tilt bet, because you expected to win a big pot with your QQ and now hope you still do somehow.
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Made a kind of optimistic range with him calling all twopairs and never raising them on flop or turn.
Text results appended to pokerstove.txt
396 games 0.005 secs 79,200 games/sec
Board: Qh Jh Th 9h 2c
Dead:
equity win tie pots won pots tied
Hand 0: 72.727% 72.73% 00.00% 288 0.00 { AKs, K9s+, Q8s+, J8s+, T8s+, 98s, AKo, K9o+, Q8o+, J8o+, T8o+, 98o }
Hand 1: 27.273% 27.27% 00.00% 108 0.00 { QQ }
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collegesucks   United States. Jun 21 2009 17:10. Posts 5780 | | |
| | On June 21 2009 15:48 ytricky wrote:
Board: Qh Jh Td 9h 2c
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ytricky   Germany. Jun 21 2009 17:15. Posts 600 | | |
| | On June 21 2009 16:10 collegesucks wrote:
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Sorry :=) i seem to be illiterate with pokerstove.
Text results appended to pokerstove.txt
360 games 0.005 secs 72,000 games/sec
Board: Qh Jh 9h 2c Td
Dead:
equity win tie pots won pots tied
Hand 0: 70.000% 70.00% 00.00% 252 0.00 { AKs, K9s+, Q8s+, J8s+, T8s+, AKo, K9o+, Q8o+, J8o+, T8o+ }
Hand 1: 30.000% 30.00% 00.00% 108 0.00 { QQ }
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staxxx   Bulgaria. Jun 21 2009 17:30. Posts 652 | | |
for this villain i expect something like:
Text results appended to pokerstove.txt
218 games 0.005 secs 43,600 games/sec
Board: Qh Jh Td 9h 2c
Dead:
equity win tie pots won pots tied
Hand 0: 62.385% 62.39% 00.00% 136 0.00 { QcQs }
Hand 1: 37.615% 37.61% 00.00% 82 0.00 { AJs-ATs, K9s+, K2s, Q8s+, J2s+, T9s, T2s, 98s, AJo-ATo, K9o+, K2o, Q8o+, J2o+, T9o, T2o, 98o }
and expect him to call our shove with most of this range |
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palak   United States. Jun 21 2009 17:34. Posts 4601 | | |
Y exactly cant u c/f this river? If villain is passive station then he isnt going to shove worse. I also doubt he is really so bad that he calls with worse here. If he is so bad that he calls with worse then why make a thread about how to play against complete dumbfucks.
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staxxx   Bulgaria. Jun 21 2009 17:36. Posts 652 | | |
so its at best 50/50 win/lose when we shove, its close... If he is passive enough maybe you can check fold |
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jasper5408   United States. Jun 21 2009 17:46. Posts 820 | | |
| | On June 21 2009 15:06 phexac wrote:
Villain is a 50/10 station fish. I just can't CF here, so shove, yes?
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so check/check
if he's a passive fish then he'll only bet out with a straight no? he'll check everything else?
if your only reasoning is that you cannot stand to check/fold and therefore you decide to shove...
are u shoving for value? is he so much of a calling station he'll call you with 2 pairz? seems highly unlikely... |
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