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NewbSaibot   United States. Jun 19 2009 18:03. Posts 4952

Ok so I've been playing 40/35/4 at this table at about 60 hands. I look wild and probably get no credit. B/c of my table image I am worried about tagfish trying to play back at me with the ole c/r. Do I have to fold this? Can I expect a 27/20 player to do this with AJ or FD's or OESD's? I dont like getting it in 130 BB's deep with just TP, but with my minish 3bet and so forth I just expect lots of action considering my image. Obv a set is the only thing I put him on, but does anybody ever try to represent a set? Or is that just way too fancy to expect anyone to actually pull off?

Submitted by : NewbSaibot

Full Tilt Poker Game #12910789375: Table Kerry (6 max) - $0.50/$1 - No Limit Hold'em - 17:47:18 ET - 2009/06/19
Seat 1: Dudestar84 ($136)
Seat 2: KJoey82 ($91.65)
Seat 3: mbagraduate ($27.35)
Seat 4: Hero ($141.25)
Seat 6: TheSarcasm ($172.40)
Dudestar84 posts the small blind of $0.50
KJoey82 posts the big blind of $1
The button is in seat #6

Holecards
Dealt to HeroAdQs
mbagraduate folds
Hero raises to $2.50
TheSarcasm folds
Dudestar84 calls $2
KJoey82 folds

Flop (Pot : $6.00)

   8s9sAh
Dudestar84 checks
Hero bets $6
Dudestar84 has 15 seconds left to act
Dudestar84 raises to $18
Hero has 15 seconds left to act
Hero raises to $40
Dudestar84 has 15 seconds left to act
Dudestar84 has requested TIME
Dudestar84 raises to $133.50, and is all in

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bye nowLast edit: 19/06/2009 18:07

EvilSky    Czech Republic. Jun 19 2009 18:22. Posts 8918

if you expect a lot of action from worse with that minraise (which is probably not the case) how is folding an option ?????????????????


bober1   United States. Jun 19 2009 18:28. Posts 666

Dont make a tiny 3 bet here if you dont want to go to war. Flat and play a turn, or if you think a small reraise will induce a spaz play then snap here.


EvilSky    Czech Republic. Jun 19 2009 18:31. Posts 8918

And btw tagfish as you call em will adjust to someone playing 40/35 (assuming they even noticed) mostly by going huh this guy is a retard im gonna flop a set and stack him, so be carefull with going broke with tp in these spots.


Sicks Macks   United States. Jun 19 2009 18:52. Posts 3929

I mean he can have a bunch of combo draws too (AsXs, JTss, 76ss), 2 pair (A9s, A8s, 98s), sets, and maaaaybe the odd OESD. I don't know why you potted the flop though...

Mr. Will Throwit 

joLin   United States. Jun 19 2009 19:15. Posts 3818

i think you play way too fancy in general and need to learn basics.

YoUr_KiLLeR @ TL 

NewbSaibot   United States. Jun 19 2009 22:32. Posts 4952


  On June 19 2009 18:15 joLin wrote:
i think you play way too fancy in general and need to learn basics.

Yeah this is a result of me one-tabling. I try to maximize my edge in every single hand. Needless to say playing 40vpip is hard to get bored when one-tabling so I find myself in spots like this quite frequently. Whenever I go for the invisible minraise (my term for making it a few bucks more than a minraise so they dont really feel like they're being minraised) it always comes with the forethought that "if he shoves over, I have to fold. But he cant float me here, so barring the completion of flushes/straights, I can assume my hand to still be good". I end up pricing a lot of people into calling, but i see this as irrelevant since im still a 60% favorite most of the time.

bye nowLast edit: 20/06/2009 00:56

LemOn[5thF]   Czech Republic. Jun 20 2009 07:27. Posts 15163

Why cbet so strong?
Do you pot this when you miss too?

93% Sure!  

joLin   United States. Jun 20 2009 10:01. Posts 3818


  On June 19 2009 21:32 NewbSaibot wrote:
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Yeah this is a result of me one-tabling. I try to maximize my edge in every single hand.

you can maximize your edge in every hand without doing all of these fancy retarded things that you do in all of your hands. from looking at your threads/blogs, a lot of your analysis is just you outleveling yourself and some of it doesnt make sense logically. this is the reason youre not beating the micros. just try to play solid.

you also seem to have the wrong idea about 'outplaying fish'. a lot of times, outplaying fish doesnt mean leveling yourself and trying to make fancy plays. the way to outplay a lot of fish is to make them get money in behind and showdown better hands than them a big % of the time. keep things simpler.

like here..why do you open 2.5bb pf and why do you pot the flop?

YoUr_KiLLeR @ TLLast edit: 20/06/2009 10:10

BalloonFight   United States. Jun 21 2009 01:39. Posts 1380

Basically same school of thought, don't like any street. 2.5 pre raise, then pot on flop. basically lost on your entire play in this hand. When you normally cbet do you pot as well?


 



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