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NewbSaibot   United States. Jun 18 2009 22:16. Posts 4952 | | |

Here's villain. Nuff said. Can I ship the following 2 hands? Or is this a leak?
I think my HUD is easy enough to read but just in case:
Hands / VPIP / PFR / AF
Fold to cbet / 3bet% / Fold to 3bet%
Steal / Fold BB
Submitted by : NewbSaibot
Full Tilt Poker Game #12893128724: Table Peak (6 max) - $0.50/$1 - No Limit Hold'em - 19:12:48 ET - 2009/06/18
Seat 1: Riko Shiba Inu ($199)
Seat 2: Emergence ($108.25)
Seat 3: BOgamble ($514.20)
Seat 4: nimuuuh ($374.30)
Seat 5: Hero ($116.80)
Seat 6: Avatar-matts ($109.95)
nimuuuh posts the small blind of $0.50
Hero posts the big blind of $1
The button is in seat #3
Holecards(Odds) Dealt to Hero 
Avatar-matts folds
Riko Shiba Inu folds
Emergence folds
BOgamble raises to $2
nimuuuh folds
Hero raises to $6.50
BOgamble calls $4.50
Flop(Odds) (Pot : $13.50)
  Hero bets $8
BOgamble raises to $24
Riko Shiba Inu: hey numuuh can you please xfer me my monies back?
Hero calls $16
Turn(Odds) (Pot : $61.50)
   Hero checks
nimuuuh: :D
BOgamble bets $61.50
nimuuuh: lost toooo much today to do that
Hero raises to $86.30, and is all in
BOgamble calls $24.80
Hero shows 
BOgamble shows 
nimuuuh: like 800 in the last hour
River (Pot : $234.10)
    Hero shows two pair, Eights and Threes
BOgamble shows a full house, Threes full of Twos
BOgamble wins the pot ($231.10) with a full house, Threes full of Twos
Hero adds $100
Summary Total pot $234.10 | Rake $3
Board:    
Seat 1: Riko Shiba Inu didn't bet (folded)
Seat 2: Emergence didn't bet (folded)
Seat 3: BOgamble (button) showed and won ($231.10) with a full house, Threes full of Twos
Seat 4: nimuuuh (small blind) folded before the Flop
Seat 5: Hero (big blind) showed and lost with two pair, Eights and Threes
Seat 6: Avatar-matts didn't bet (folded)
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Basically my reasoning is, the guy is bonkers, he's been doin all sorts of random shit, and how often can I really be afraid of a jack every time he opens for a minraise. Because I dont really have any idea of his hand, I figure I might as well shove as oddly as that sounds. I mean, I guess my "read" was right, b/c clearly the guy is nuts 3x'ing bottom pair on the flop. Since I can expect him to be doing this, is it fine to ship turn blindly here against a maniac? These guys give me so much trouble I still havent quite locked down how to play optimally vs them.
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Submitted by : NewbSaibot
Full Tilt Poker Game #12892747435: Table Peak (6 max) - $0.50/$1 - No Limit Hold'em - 18:50:55 ET - 2009/06/18
Seat 1: Riko Shiba Inu ($102.35)
Seat 2: yeah6 ($100)
Seat 3: BOgamble ($681)
Seat 4: nimuuuh ($196.35)
Seat 5: Hero ($100)
Seat 6: Avatar-matts ($100)
Riko Shiba Inu posts the small blind of $0.50
yeah6 posts the big blind of $1
The button is in seat #6
Holecards(Odds) Dealt to Hero 
BOgamble raises to $2
nimuuuh folds
Hero raises to $12
Avatar-matts folds
Riko Shiba Inu folds
yeah6 folds
yeah6 adds $1
BOgamble calls $10
Flop(Odds) (Pot : $25.50)
  BOgamble checks
Hero checks
Turn(Odds) (Pot : $25.50)
   BOgamble bets $25
Hero raises to $88, and is all in
BOgamble calls $63
Hero shows 
BOgamble shows 
River (Pot : $201.50)
    Hero shows a pair of Kings
BOgamble shows two pair, Jacks and Twos
BOgamble wins the pot ($198.50) with two pair, Jacks and Twos
Hero: wtf
Hero adds $100
Summary Total pot $201.50 | Rake $3
Board:    
Seat 1: Riko Shiba Inu (small blind) folded before the Flop
Seat 2: yeah6 (big blind) folded before the Flop
Seat 3: BOgamble showed and won ($198.50) with two pair, Jacks and Twos
Seat 4: nimuuuh didn't bet (folded)
Seat 5: Hero showed and lost with a pair of Kings
Seat 6: Avatar-matts (button) didn't bet (folded)
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This hand might fall into cooler category, not quite sure. I overbet preflop both for value and to make damn sure nobody else straggles along behind. Is it standard to just shove on maniacs all day with any kind of hand like this when possible? I'm honestly not sure if I am playing these situations correct or not. Plz help.
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Balzamon   Sweden. Jun 18 2009 22:59. Posts 2868 | | |
Hand 1 is pretty thin, but i think i continue with it as well vs this maniac, but i prefer just getting it in on flop, theres basically no turn-card that makes your hand easier to play.
Hand 2 is standard. |
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royalsu   Canada. Jun 18 2009 23:05. Posts 3233 | | |
um..he showed down 32s in hand one, how are you even questioning your play?
also, 3b hand 1 to 10-12$. |
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Fraser   Canada. Jun 18 2009 23:22. Posts 4605 | | |
Ya I agree with balzamon basically. 3bet to protect unless hes raising air alot AND following through with a turn bluff close to 100%, which seems unlikely for someone who's been able to accumulate 6 buyins. |
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exalted   United States. Jun 19 2009 00:54. Posts 2918 | | |
both hands are fine
hand 2 MR turn to 55
you are playing Nl100 now? |
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jasper5408   United States. Jun 19 2009 01:07. Posts 820 | | |
looks like he is the ownage sauce. mark him as a shark and find a softer table. not that your bad, but why play against him?
he had 500+ before u lost your 2 buy ins, he's prob not as nitty as you think (MAYBE)
but then again...calling your J2 was so .....lawl |
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NewbSaibot   United States. Jun 19 2009 01:08. Posts 4952 | | |
yeah, playin with a real light BR though. |
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JizzleSmitts   United States. Jun 19 2009 02:51. Posts 1217 | | |
both hands seem pretty standard against this opponent imo |
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LemOn[5thF]   Czech Republic. Jun 19 2009 05:43. Posts 15163 | | |
| | On June 19 2009 00:08 NewbSaibot wrote:
yeah, playin with a real light BR though. |
Didn't you play like NL10 a while ago? surely you got at least 2.5K now right? |
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staxxx   Bulgaria. Jun 19 2009 07:20. Posts 652 | | |
very nice villain
for the hands- well played, about the AK hand, i'd 3 bet to $45 and shove any flop. He was just on a heater. |
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k2o4   United States. Jun 19 2009 16:56. Posts 4803 | | | |
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Bullshit   Canada. Jun 19 2009 19:43. Posts 738 | | |
| | On June 19 2009 06:20 staxxx wrote:
very nice villain
for the hands- well played, about the AK hand, i'd 3 bet to $45 and shove any flop. He was just on a heater. |
lol what |
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LemOn[5thF]   Czech Republic. Jun 20 2009 11:52. Posts 15163 | | |
| | On June 19 2009 06:20 staxxx wrote:
very nice villain
for the hands- well played, about the AK hand, i'd 3 bet to $45 and shove any flop. He was just on a heater. |
Why would we do that? The dude will pay us off anyway+his range is wider when we let him bet, no reason for flipping.
And BTW NewSaibot I hope you didn't just skip the micros once again and decided to 1table N100.
Its boring, its tedious, but every poker player should get the basics down before moving to higher stakes.
When you get to higher stakes you have to be able to beat any type of style, and avoiding some will just hurt you.
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