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ClubbedToDeath   Bulgaria. Jun 13 2009 18:42. Posts 259

75 left , 63 in the money. Do you like calling preflop (vs unknown)? As played, shove all in ? (cuz he is probably min raising some suited aces like A5+ and he might have JJ-KK and desperately trying to take it down ?)Am I correct ?
Submitted by : ClubbedToDeath

** Hand # 2661762962 starting - 2009-06-14 00:27:47
** $30,000 GTD Saturday Rebuy[2999009]:Table 24 [Multi Table Hold 'em] (1600.00|3200.00 NL - MTT) Real Money
abukar0 sitting in seat 1 with 8443.00
Hero sitting in seat 2 with 36536.00
CHRISTOU sitting in seat 3 with 35241.00
beland66 sitting in seat 5 with 31296.00
blacktea911 sitting in seat 6 with 48884.00
cartier50 sitting in seat 7 with 47860.00
sakyamuni sitting in seat 8 with 15633.00
Rijfers sitting in seat 9 with 155611.50
masaya777 sitting in seat 10 with 54161.00[Dealer]
abukar0 ante'd - 110.00
Hero ante'd - 110.00
CHRISTOU ante'd - 110.00
beland66 ante'd - 110.00
blacktea911 ante'd - 110.00
cartier50 ante'd - 110.00
sakyamuni ante'd - 110.00
Rijfers ante'd - 110.00
masaya777 ante'd - 110.00
abukar0 posted the small blind - 800.00
Hero posted the big blind - 1600.00

Holecards
   AhJc
CHRISTOU folded
beland66 folded
blacktea911 folded
cartier50 raised to 3200.00
sakyamuni folded
Rijfers folded
masaya777 folded
abukar0 folded
Hero called - 3200.00

Flop (Pot : $7,200.00)

   9c4dAc
Hero checked
cartier50 bet - 8000.00


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 Last edit: 13/06/2009 18:43

killaherni   Mexico. Jun 13 2009 18:48. Posts 278

why did u check the flop?

SonOfAuntie: i feel ppl my age all the time with my own substances 

Liquid`Drone   Norway. Jun 13 2009 18:59. Posts 3096

normally id just push preflop here
when you call pre i do like a check-push.

lol POKER 

ClubbedToDeath   Bulgaria. Jun 13 2009 19:12. Posts 259

I just called preflop cuz I didnt want to gamble. And I checked the flop cuz my plan was to check/shove. But then he overbet and I was like "omg do I have to fold here?hmm"


Zalfor   United States. Jun 13 2009 21:30. Posts 2236

check shove still.


fakeshaver   United States. Jun 14 2009 00:04. Posts 1313

id shove preflop and if i didnt. depending on what type of player im up vs i might check call flop or check shove. we have the jack of clubs which makes me lean towards just check call and check call turn and if he checks back shove river


ClubbedToDeath   Bulgaria. Jun 14 2009 06:25. Posts 259

I don`t like shove preflop , but as played I guess its all in evrytime. OK. ty guys


GirlsRVicious   United States. Jun 15 2009 04:12. Posts 1094

Yeah can't call pre then hit an ace and fold imo

LOL Live Pokerz 

Chewits   United Kingdom. Jun 15 2009 04:51. Posts 2539

tricky spot, because of your stacksize. I dont think calling here is +EV as you are oop. What is history on villain, has he been stealing alot of blinds? What does a min raise say to you about him? These are the sorta things you really should have picked up and be taking notes, esp as the money is very close. Unless he has just joined or u have just moved tables.

Personally, because you are OOP, I would like to 3bet here to around 7-8k. That way you can represnet a much bigger hand. I will find alot of players will simply fold pre flop here after your 3bet, because a min raise at this stage is usually a weak stab at picking up some blinds/antes, and they will not want to call your 3bet even when they are IP, because you have forced him to put more money in the pot with a marginal hand. If he does call, I am leading the flop here and shoving as your hand is more than likely miles ahead here.

As played, villain does not have a strong ace. He has a weak hand, was trying to steal blind and has shit breaks cuz there is an ace on the board and is betting flop hard to make you fold. He prob has a possible FD or something like KQ, KJ, or a weaker ace. Because over betting on that flop is not what you do when you hit your ace in a tournament, you will prob bet around 1/2 to 3/4 alot of the time, because every chip counts, and by him over betting it just makes no sense. So I am shoving here. If he shows up with AK, AQ, I will be extremely surprised.

I am a degen. Do not believe in any of my advice.Last edit: 15/06/2009 04:52

ClubbedToDeath   Bulgaria. Jun 15 2009 18:24. Posts 259

No reads, I was moved , 2nd or 3rd hand @ the table. But why are you going to leed the flop ? Isn`t check/shove better ? or you mean that you will leed when you 3bet pre ?


Vivi57   United States. Jun 16 2009 03:10. Posts 314

I like a check shove on the flop

if you weren't planning on getting it in with the perfect flop, you should have folded pre


 



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