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Chewits   United Kingdom. Jun 09 2009 09:43. Posts 2539 | | |
I am working on improving my tournament game and fixing possible some leaks. Would like some criticism/opinions on these pretty standard situations;
Hand 1;
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180man sit+go (not turbo)
34 players left, 18 are paid.
i have 0 reads on villain. he has just joined table (2 hands) and he folded both.
Is flatting here better considering my stack size? ( about 22bbs) Because 3betting here commits me to a shove? Call his 3xbb raise and evaluate on flop or shove all in instead of 3bet?
Hand 2;
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180man sit+go (not turbo)
villain 25/15/25, only 19 hand sample. 28 left, 18 are paid.
Considering his betsize and relation to stack, what is my best line here? Is it best to flat or shove? I know I only have about 13 bbs here so in my eyes, a shove is my only option? But his bet seems pretty strong for a steal? Or is this a totally standard shove ?
Hand 3;
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$3+R. mid stages of tourney
This line confuses me. Min raises from SB, then over bets on flop. What does this usually say? i have no reads on villain, he has only joined the table. It just completely confuses me. Is this line strong you think, or bluff? When someone over bets on flop like that, when so deep, what does it usually mean? I know my hand is pretty garbage here, but I am just trying to understand this line.
I know these are pretty standard, but sometimes I just need to hear it from other people to make sure I am thinking the correct way.
Regarding AK as a hand, how strong are these later into a tourney? Are they still insta all in vs short/medium stacks? Or do you play them much more cautious? And I specifically mean this when deep stacked.
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Chewits   United Kingdom. Jun 09 2009 10:13. Posts 2539 | | |
One other;
Hand 4;
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180man sit+go
Final table (top 18 paid)
JaiNinpoker - 29/15/28 (44 hands)
Endymion1985 - 9/7/50 (82 hands)
Shove or fold?
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kaisr   Canada. Jun 09 2009 11:39. Posts 1058 | | |
Personally in my own micro-low stakes tourneys I never fold AK unless its to ridiculous action from multiple deep stacked (30bb+ nits), so hand 1 and 2 are both easy shove/call all ins.
Hand 3 I agree is weird, vs. a complete unknown I'd probably 3bet his minraise because it looks so weak, but flatting then folding there can't be bad I don't think because overbetting is pretty strong, but without information he could be doing it with anything...
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kyd   . Jun 09 2009 14:06. Posts 289 | | |
hand 1.
call
hand 2.
all-in
hand 3.
3bet or just give it up. as played, i'm probably calling or raising
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fold |
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killaherni   Mexico. Jun 09 2009 15:20. Posts 278 | | |
1 - standard call, are u really considering folding after commintg so many chips to the pot?
2 - All in every day till the end of days
3 - u gotta think if u and him are so deepstacked, why would he want to risk his life stealing blinds. As played his line looks super strong like 10s thorugh Ks so just fold pre and wait for better spots.
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Vivi57   United States. Jun 16 2009 03:20. Posts 314 | | |
1 - shove 3bet rather than 3betting small
2 - shove
3 - I'd fold, it's way too risky to potentially play for stacks in such a mediocre spot. Unless you can give me a good reason to play here, I'm folding
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Chewits   United Kingdom. Jun 16 2009 06:44. Posts 2539 | | |
Yeah, looking back on this, these are all std. I was trying to make reasons for the coolers I guess 
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qwerty67890   New Zealand. Jun 16 2009 08:20. Posts 14026 | | |
180man sit+go (not turbo)
34 players left, 18 are paid.
I wouldnt consider this when playing a 180 man
You dont really make anything decent until 5th+
Folding into a min-cash of $8 after like 2.5hours would be more depressing than going bust here. |
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Chewits   United Kingdom. Jun 16 2009 09:09. Posts 2539 | | |
Yeah I agree. I play to make FT. Then I find it very easy to negotiate my way into top 3 or winning, as alot of players who make it to FT in 180man are usually pretty bad, have got lucky / are complete fish, and its pretty easy to run over them. I guess i should be stacking off with AK here all the time. He easily can have any PP here and its a flip. Just I rather prefer being the one shoving than calling a shove. |
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[GiTM]-Ace   United States. Jun 16 2009 10:30. Posts 1585 | | |
1)shove no small raise
2)shove
3) You can fold.. I'd probably fold but im sure I'd take your line from time to time too
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Shove #1
Shove #2
Fold #3 in donkaments a minraise from the sb is more often then not the nuts unless you have a little history with him doing it all the time just fold pre....especially smaller tourneys if ppl want to steal here they're more inclined to 3x it imo
Fold #4 endymion has been pretty tight so you're most likely kilt
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BigRed0000   United States. Jun 16 2009 13:41. Posts 3554 | | |
hand 1 I don't mind 3 bet/snap calling or re-shoving, both options are good. Re shoving may be better at these limits b/c ppl are pretty bad and may just flat you a lot.. then you are in kind of a weird spot when horrible flops come, but whatever it's def. not a mistake to 3b/call.
hand 2 - value re-shove and this hand is fine.
hand 3 - i like teh call pre b/c you're both fairly deep (for a tournament) and ppl play terribly, i don't think i'd 3b as a bluff here too often b/c when you're deep and have position in a blind battle, it's more profitable to just call against most players and own them post flop, plus less variance when you're not getting into 3b/4b wars. I'd also fold to the flop overbet unless i had a pretty confident read that he only does this weak. |
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