easy laydown? simple turbo tourney

Submitted by : jasper5408

PokerStars Game #28713671583: Tournament #167310307, $11+$1 Holdem No Limit - Level II (15/30) - 2009/05/28 11:12:31 ET
Table 167310307 3 9-max Seat #9 is the button
Seat 1: ##CADU-77 (1440 in chips)
Seat 2: baltza (1075 in chips)
Seat 4: Producer86 (1790 in chips)
Seat 5: Hero (2210 in chips)
Seat 6: The4Kims (1270 in chips)
Seat 7: Jooce2.5 (1990 in chips)
Seat 8: theaceman85 (1430 in chips)
Seat 9: SMRGN (855 in chips)
##CADU-77: posts small blind 15
baltza: posts big blind 30

Holecards
Dealt to Hero
Producer86: folds
Hero: raises 60 to 90
The4Kims: calls 90
Jooce2.5: folds
theaceman85: folds
SMRGN: calls 90
##CADU-77: folds
baltza: folds

Flop (Pot : $315.00)

   
Hero: bets 210
The4Kims: raises 210 to 420

people are insanely stupid in these and i hate making big folds but i think we can probably fold here. it depends on the player too of course. i wouldnt fold AK, thats how close it is

why can't he have
33 or 66? I probably fold this for three reasons,
1) he min-raised.
2) it's a dry board.
3) Alot of players in these could call off their whole stack with 77+ on three streets if the board runs out harmless. But raising, and especially min-raising is usually a tell of a very good hand, unless he's doing this with like pocket 8s. I'd just pick a better spot since these are super soft.

wait, how many tables are there?

calling and then proceeding is bad ?

dunno if i like the raise pf utg+1

thank's barbieman and bour420, those are both very good points.

I know like crap about donkaments and mostly I only try to run good but I'd call this and see what happens.

I would never ever fold now, probably just tankcall, check turn and snap his shove. If the board was slightly more drawy, or it was Q63 or J63 and we had KJ i'd just shove flop cause more bad turn cards to scare him off.

Anyway basically impossible to put a random on a sensible range here where its correct to fold

minraise doesnt mean anything in donkaments.

i can read souls. he had A6o

lol he had 66's for a set of 66's.

ty for teaming up with me and bashing the minraise fish!

Great for my Self-Esteem :D

easy laydown, again he would not minraise met kj or worse imo, LOOK IN PEARLJAMMERS BOOK, ITS IN THERE

i call and shove on turn. i suck at donkaments, but i expect a weaker king here.

On June 04 2009 01:03 Naolan wrote: i call and shove on turn. i suck at donkaments, but i expect a weaker king here.

I'd shove now. The minraise just means he wants to be allin by the river

maybe its a leak, but I can see him calling with so many weaker kings

I don't get why we would fold this here in a 12$ turbo ><

He only has 1200, let's just ship it in?