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TalentedTom    Canada. May 22 2009 16:43. Posts 20070

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So this guy has been constantly sitting in and out of the table, each time when he sits back in he auto posts the blinds out of position, he's been playing 60/15 over 60 hands or so, other than that nothing notable I stacked a regular AA v QQ few hands earlier while the fish was there.
His cold call of the shortstack shove was ISNTANT, as was the calling of my 4-bet, he just SNAP clicked call. His turn bet was also automatic, less than 2 sec of thought, thoughts?

Also my flop play, anyone bet this flop? I checked with the assumption I could get a good feel for hand on future streets and play / bet accordingly. Also my hand is obviously not vulrunable to overcards

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Our deepest fear is not that we are inadequate. Our deepest fear is that we are powerful beyond measure. It is our light not our darkness that most frightens us and as we let our own lights shine we unconsciously give other people permision to do the sameLast edit: 22/05/2009 22:02

X WalcottEntp   United States. May 22 2009 19:32. Posts 117

wow thats a terrible spot.
I would cbet flop to get a feel for where im at but honestly your only ahead of AJ AQ and TT
cbet fold to shove, if he flats shutdown on later streets.
Such an akward spot here, his turn bet is small that I would call and if he checks or bets small again on river just check/call and hope he has AJ

but then again I am microstakes lol

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Silver_nz   New Zealand. May 22 2009 21:49. Posts 5647

whats going on with this HH.. where is A_C_K_E_T's fold?


TalentedTom    Canada. May 22 2009 22:00. Posts 20070


  On May 22 2009 20:49 Silver)Z( wrote:
whats going on with this HH.. where is A_C_K_E_T's fold?



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He's a shortstacker, hes all in, so one way or another I am going to see villians hand, although I am unsure if he knows this

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looserSR   Slovakia. May 22 2009 22:18. Posts 95

raise more preflop 380 - 420, donk call it anyway.
i like check flop to see what he do on turn, check/fold turn, this is common way how donks play AK


gawdawaful   Canada. May 22 2009 23:00. Posts 9015

whats an elephant

Im only good at poker when I run good 

Racist Dragon   Canada. May 22 2009 23:21. Posts 258



=

someone who is rather loose, plays in a lot of pots and generally has quite a bit of money behind and is a calling station - ie. a sexy sexual sexariffic target

im at nl25 cos ppl r more aggresiv they r shoving more and play better, so if i want too improve its +ev to play more nl25 before i move to nl200 - genjix 

HeRoS)eNGagE   Canada. May 23 2009 00:06. Posts 10896

geeze
im an elephant
t.t


NMcNasty    United States. May 23 2009 12:37. Posts 2041

rough spot

i think its pretty close between calling turn and river, and just folding turn

i dont think u can trust fish to figure out u have a hand on turn if u call and have him just shutdown with worse


SakiSaki    Sweden. May 23 2009 14:56. Posts 9687

I agree with mcnasty, I wouldnt really call turn fold river here. I think I probably just call call here, he can show up with alot of shit and given that he snapcalled and snapbet, meh I dont wanna fold.

what wackass site is this nigga?  

LazyFisH   Australia. May 23 2009 15:06. Posts 686

I usually call turn and river here. Did you manage to get any reads off his insta betting or his roughly 1/2 pot betting? These guys usually have big timing/bet sizing tells which will be apparent by 60 hands.


[vital]Myth    United States. May 23 2009 18:05. Posts 12159

i bet like 215 on flop and 215 on turn and then check behind river

is he rly gonna raise without a better hand? or fold something that is legit but worse than QQ?

Eh, I can go a few more orbits in life, before taxes blind me out - PoorUser 

SakiSaki    Sweden. May 23 2009 20:40. Posts 9687

idk myth, donks can definitely go like "boom flopped I jack Im fucking going with it, unless he has AA/KK/QQAK Im....IM IN GOLDEN"

what wackass site is this nigga?  

Rhaegar    Bulgaria. May 23 2009 21:06. Posts 2586


  On May 23 2009 17:05 [vital]Myth wrote:
i bet like 215 on flop and 215 on turn and then check behind river

is he rly gonna raise without a better hand? or fold something that is legit but worse than QQ?



Hah, you gotta teach me how to beat fish.

One very suspicious player 

EvilSky    Czech Republic. May 24 2009 08:37. Posts 8918

this is the mother of uncomfortable spots, some donks will call any number of bets preflop with like TT but shutdown once they see a K hit, maybe there is value in betting and also in defining your hand but it has to be pretty marginal. Why cant we call and fold on the river tho? if he is betting randomly with a J or underpair I dont think he will follow thru on the river that much, and there really isnt much he can be pure bluffing with is there?


Roman    United States. May 24 2009 20:45. Posts 590


  On May 23 2009 17:05 [vital]Myth wrote:
i bet like 215 on flop and 215 on turn and then check behind river

is he rly gonna raise without a better hand? or fold something that is legit but worse than QQ?


 



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