fml stupid fish

wierd hand from a unreal fishy 100/200 live game a few days ago.

villain is one of the soft spots in the game and I heard from a friend he is pretty horrible I've beaten him in a few small pots since I've gotten my seat in the game and haven't seen him do anything too crazy yet.

I raise QJo to 600 in MP, villain calls in sb with like 26000 behind and I cover.

KsTs4x flop, he checks and i check

4x on turn, he checks I bet 800, he raises to 1700

Kx on river, he bets 1100, I ???

fold or minraise?

On March 19 2009 19:44 n0rthf4ce wrote: fold or minraise?

smooth call and post on hand of the week

fold, and i'd rather bet flop than turn

make it 14,000

he has to put you on the Four

is this a level or what

On March 19 2009 19:44 n0rthf4ce wrote: fold or minraise?

I was thinking the same, but as I never played higher than 5/10 online, and 1/2 live, I really can't have a clue.

looks like you're the fish

wat

lolololol what is going on in this thread

just fold cookie

you could raise but i think fish like this are often betting this way with a K or 4 and obv won't fold to any raise, it looks like you don't have a boat so they don't bet big with their own boat

also i think if this fish has deep pockets and only came to fuck around and play monster poker, then if you end up getting caught in a substantial bluff against a boat here, you'll lose so much credibility that the fish will effectively start trapping you more and value betting you thinner, which is probably not good unless he's a sick tellbox as well, so i'd rather not risk letting him accidentally make good adjustments

if I check flop I don't like to bet turn, it looks weak esp when flop had 2 spades

I'm also betting flop a lot of the time

as played river is a pretty standard fold. you COULD raise, it just won't look very convincing

it's really hilarious to get retards to bluff raise in this spot, like you bet super small river cuz u know villain has a draw 99% of the time, so now since the bet is small he goes FUCK TILT RAISE

On March 20 2009 18:31 Fayth wrote: it's really hilarious to get retards to bluff raise in this spot, like you bet super small river cuz u know villain has a draw 99% of the time, so now since the bet is small he goes FUCK TILT RAISE

agree

On March 20 2009 18:31 Fayth wrote: it's really hilarious to get retards to bluff raise in this spot, like you bet super small river cuz u know villain has a draw 99% of the time, so now since the bet is small he goes FUCK TILT RAISE

and against a decent aggro ?
Online, when i go minraise on river, as i verified on HEM, it's seems to be +ev (but sample size, blabla, hence the question).

first instinct was to fold but figured there was a lot of value to showing a bluff here too even if I get called so I made a cheap bluff of 2800 and villain tanked and then said fuck it show me the K and called me lol.

owned then

A cheap bluff? Here? Either make it like 6600 or fold.