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kaboom   Canada. Feb 21 2009 13:17. Posts 261

10/20 live

game is really active and super deep, I've been 3bet squeezing a lot and have been showing a lot of hands like T5s etc after they've folded so my image is very active atm. villain is a good online player that plays the 10/20 and 25/50 live regularly and is one of those guys very capable of tossing 15k in there with air.

i have 13kish at start of the hand, villain covers with like 60k.

UTG raises the straddle to 140, 1 caller, I call QT, button calls, straddle calls.

flop QT6 rainbow

check, UTG bets 380, fold, I smooth call, rest fold.

turn 8 still rainbow

UTG bets 980, I smooth

river 4

UTG bets 2000, I call


Should I be raising anywhere in this hand and calling off if shoved on?

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Muhweli   Finland. Feb 22 2009 11:45. Posts 10663

Sounds really aggressive.

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Zanjong   Afghanistan. Feb 22 2009 12:44. Posts 3076

call river be happy about it? I dont think a raise except for on the flop is too good. He should be able to fold KK AQ to a raise on turn/river?


maxousek   Czech Republic. Feb 22 2009 13:23. Posts 464

call and stackoff overpair...
FYL if he has QQ


Joe   Czech Republic. Feb 22 2009 17:08. Posts 5987

60k stack on 10/20 looks scary Where is that, Commerce?

Assuming its fullring and deep vs aggro guy, I think I like to just call him down. If you had like 4-5k stack then I think raising the flop and getting it in is better, but this deep I wouldnt be comfortable getting it in even vs a very aggro player. But of course its tough to judge, you were in the game and you know the dynamics better.

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Twisted    Netherlands. Feb 22 2009 18:46. Posts 10422

I think planning to call down top two is extremely nitty especially against a live tard. Just raise flop and valuetown him on turn+river. If he shoves it in anywhere and happens to have better fuck your life etc. but if he has AA/KK/AQ/KQ or whatever he's likely to call down.

You say you're active then just call down top two?!?

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Fayth    Canada. Feb 22 2009 23:16. Posts 10085

i'd prob raise flop most of the time, however if I decide to flat flop I'm probably flatting turn and river as well

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NMcNasty    United States. Feb 23 2009 00:02. Posts 2041

i play it the same, especially if u cant reload if u stack off


CZechRaise   Czech Republic. Feb 23 2009 01:23. Posts 42


  On February 22 2009 17:46 Twisted wrote:
I think planning to call down top two is extremely nitty especially against a live tard. Just raise flop and valuetown him on turn+river. If he shoves it in anywhere and happens to have better fuck your life etc. but if he has AA/KK/AQ/KQ or whatever he's likely to call down.

You say you're active then just call down top two?!?



I can't see how he wouldn't have U polarized on later 2+street (big) actions ... if U calling this down w top two.

Its BR dependant IMO - if that 13k U sittin' on is a big chunk of yr BR ... calling him down here + setting up this image (+avoid big clashes w him) is fine.

I also agree with McNasty ... - if the game is really good (and U wouldn't be able to reload), sacrificing a bit of EV here for later game's sake should be fine too.

 Last edit: 23/02/2009 01:39

Rekrul   United States. Feb 23 2009 01:57. Posts 3338

raise flop for sure if you've been really active if you've been nitty call down is fine i guess

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kaboom   Canada. Feb 23 2009 02:58. Posts 261

reloading wasn't a problem, I just didn't think he would pay off 3 bets with AA,KK,AQ type hands If I had raised the flop on that board. He's not a live tard it's a good online player and if I flat he's gonna value bet those kind of hands all the way + a possible 3-barrel.

anyone ever raise river here or is that too thin?

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Rekrul   United States. Feb 23 2009 18:35. Posts 3338

river raise is really good if you've set up some reverse tell

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Baalim   Mexico. Feb 23 2009 20:06. Posts 34312

1.- raise flop
2.- tip the dealer
3.- stare at the hot cocktail waitress
4.-???
5.- profit

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GiYoM   Korea (South). Feb 24 2009 10:20. Posts 455

Smooth call the flop cuz its rainbow and ur not the kind to put it in there with KJ so ur folding everything u beat except AQ KK AA

You could raise river. If 13k isnt ur life bankroll that is. ;/


Luckb0xx   Germany. Feb 24 2009 13:49. Posts 2069


  On February 23 2009 19:06 Baal wrote:
1.- raise flop
2.- tip the dealer
3.- stare at the hot cocktail waitress
4.-???
5.- profit



you play live a lot?

pfffffff... 

Baalim   Mexico. Feb 25 2009 00:47. Posts 34312


  On February 24 2009 12:49 Luckb0xx wrote:
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you play live a lot?


not really, but Rek does and he seems to agree.

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MezmerizePLZ    United States. Feb 25 2009 18:04. Posts 2598

i'd prob just shove my whole range on the riv ~_~..


 



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