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Uptown . Feb 19 2009 20:13. Posts 3557 | | |
Wondering if/when I can fold overpairs to a shove. I will omit reads / notes, since I am not sure if I had them at the time of the hand.
Villain - 26/20/2
UTG raiser, no 4bet, wet board.
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Villain - 27/20/2.7
UTG raiser, no 4bet, dry board
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Villain - 52/28/3.3
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ytricky Germany. Feb 19 2009 20:29. Posts 600 | | |
Hand 1 i would definitly stack off. We beat so many overpairs.
Hand 2 really sucks hard .But in a multiway pot like this i think yoú are usually beat even if its 3bet. Its really hard to tell because we dont know what villain coldcalls a 3bet like this. But i think he is calling here with either AK/AQ or a pp to setmine against atleast two people.
Hand 3 there is like essentially nothing you beat on the river. I think i would not even bet the river here. |
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ShadowDrgn United States. Feb 19 2009 20:48. Posts 1156 | | |
Obviously I play lower stakes so feel free to ignore me. 
Hand 1:
If his stats can lead us to believe he's positionally aware, we can probably discount the straights and put him on pairs. Adding AhKh doesn't change the equities much either. I think the board makes it a bit more likely that he has a set and wants to protect it, but that's hard to factor in.
36% equity in the pot if we call
61% equity if he raises with 44+
46% equity if he raises with sets and JJ+
34% equity if he raises with sets and QQ+
So really, it's a horrible call if he only shoves sets (and AA), close to break even if he'll shove QQ, and a good call otherwise. I'm definitely not folding.
Hand 2:
Pretty much the same situation, except this time he might have a straight draw instead of the flush draw. The dry board makes me think he'd be more willing to raise smaller with a set to keep you in the pot, and therefore this is more likely to be a weaker hand trying for fold equity. Considering you have aces, I like calling.
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Blind vs blind and you only have to call $45 into a $200 pot? I think the guy's going to show up with A9 (maybe A3) more often than not because he's playing half his hands, but 78% of the time? I think a bad player will do this with a 7 or A high at least 22% of the time, and for metagame purposes, betting 3 streets and folding less than half your stack kinda sucks.  |
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Python817 Canada. Feb 19 2009 20:56. Posts 2733 | | |
hand 3 fold the other 2 is a joke leading to hand 3 yes? |
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Orome Switzerland. Feb 19 2009 21:25. Posts 214 | | |
Hand 1 I fistpump call, highly unlikely he has 2 pair given preflop action and he has some worse overpairs and lots of overcards + FD type hands. His huge rase also makes his range more weighted towards good draws that want to get max FE. From my experience few villains at NL50/100 would play a set like this.
Hand 2 blah, I call, but I don't expect it to be a particularly profitable spot.
Hand 3 I think I'd just c/f river. Leading to get value from stuff like tens or the occasional ace-high hero call is super thin and since he's unlikely to turn those hands into a bluff if you check to him, checking might lose you a bit of value when you're good, but it'll save you a lot when you're beat. |
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no one else thinks he should 3bet bigger?
well I guess hand 1 is fine, but usually I bump it up to 11-13 whether they raise tiny or normal-sized :/
also this
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hand 3 fold the other 2 is a joke leading to hand 3 yes? |
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1/2 SUPER easy all in
#3 fold |
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| | On February 19 2009 20:55 TalentedTom wrote:
1/2 SUPER easy all in
#3 fold |
lol was gona say the exact same thing
no need to explain
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TenBagger United States. Feb 19 2009 22:54. Posts 2018 | | |
very few players are capable of call, call, RR allin line at NL100 without nut-type hands. |
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| | On February 19 2009 21:54 TenBagger wrote:
very few players are capable of call, call, RR allin line at NL100 without nut-type hands. |
because it never works without the nuts at NL100 |
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Fox . Feb 19 2009 23:15. Posts 3110 | | |
hand 1 is so fast of a snap. JJ/QQ will do this.
hand 2 also a snap. QQ/KK do this. KQ does this. Even a loose Q9s does this..
hand 3 is a fold you beat nothing. |
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Uptown . Feb 20 2009 00:16. Posts 3557 | | | |
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hand #2 is actually very close
but shove is still fine |
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MayZerG United Kingdom. Feb 20 2009 05:56. Posts 2123 | | |
Only thing you beat on hand 3 is:
TT, 88, A7.
And those hands arnt re-raising so just fold... |
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