NL20: KJ River play

Hi,

table just starting, no reads or stats ...

do you prefer :

a) value bet / call shove
b) value bet / fold
c) check behind

?

Thank you for comments.

Submitted by : joker

Texas Hold'em $0.20-$0.40 NL (5 max) (real money), hand #P4-85556983-857
Table Columbus, 7 Jan 2009 5:45 PM
Seat 2: serjohn996 ($19.73 in chips)
Seat 4: Jo_er ($20 in chips)
Seat 8: dami1B ($19.98 in chips)
ANTES/BLINDS
dami1B posts blind ($0.10)
serjohn996 posts blind ($0.20).

Preflop
Jo_er bets $0.70
dami1B folds
serjohn996 calls $0.50.

Flop (Pot : $1.2)

serjohn996 checks, Jo_er bets $1.10
serjohn996 calls $1.10.

Turn (Pot : $3.4)

serjohn996 checks, Jo_er bets $2.80
serjohn996 calls $2.80.

River (Pot : $9)

serjohn996 checks

iam to lazy to reveal the blocks of hh you have posted.

i'd say check behind, i no he's in the bb but he checked called u 2 streets so either he was flushing or he was setting u up for a raise at some point
he could have flopped it with q10 or hit some funky higher two pair (a4,a9)

besides wat hand that u put him on calls a value bet? aq?(probably would raised preflop since it's 5max) k9?
if u bet and he shoves u gotta fold since u can't beat anything other than a complete bluff cuz u no he's not shoving with AQ on the river

bet here like 6-7$. if he checkraises it would be really weird. Any monster he could have would probably have lead out F or checkraised F or lead out T or checkraised T. So basically the only hand that beats us is A9 or QThh which would probably both have bet the R.

minbet call

i like checking behind, he's folding hands you beat/draws and calling with hands that beat you if you bet

you're not getting value from anything by betting

what the fuck checking behind is fucking awful

you can bet/fold like $6 ATLEAST. I would want to call a shove pretty badly since a shove here makes no sense except from ONE hand, or the occasional retarded 44 that randomly floated the flop oop. I think bet/fold is probably optimal though. Then bet/call if u get in a similar spot with this guy again later.

value bet call.

vb/c ez life

On January 07 2009 20:56 Night2o1 wrote: what the fuck checking behind is fucking awful

the only reason i'd bet is to induce a bluff in this position and snap it off because it looks like he was on a flush draw, or had QJ or something

actually i probably would bet/call since i just put my reasoning out there

i think bet/folding is worse then checking behind to be honest

5.5-7

On January 07 2009 20:56 Night2o1 wrote: what the fuck checking behind is fucking awful

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On January 07 2009 23:19 Into Infinity wrote: Show nested quote + On January 07 2009 20:56 Night2o1 wrote: what the fuck checking behind is fucking awful the only reason i'd bet is to induce a bluff in this position and snap it off because it looks like he was on a flush draw, or had QJ or something actually i probably would bet/call since i just put my reasoning out there i think bet/folding is worse then checking behind to be honest

this 100%

After ur thoughts I think bet/call the first time is more optimal than bet/fold, especially since it won't be a terrible large amount to call + you get to see if they are a bluffy mofo

i bet anywhere between $2- to pot sized bet.

i like a pot sized bet better tho.

and hell no at checking behind he's calling 100% of the time /w any hands he thinks he has show down value with. how strong that range is depends on 1. how much he sucks 2. how he views you. 3. he's just a monkey randomizing station.

b) value bet / fold to shove