[NL20] KK vs action

First - this is redicilously tight table, i didnt leave it, because i'm trying to train my patience (and usualy failing bad at this).

Brassens1 ( the guy who 3bets me) is mega nit been folding the last 40 mins (exeption makes 3 button raises when folded to him). Such nits usually flats even JJ here so i'm definitely worried about this raise. The guy who overcalls sat recently and is kinda lose/passive but not maniac station.

Whats my move here? Should i raise like 8-10$, call shove? Or should i shove right here? Calling might be good here but i dont think i have the discipline to fold on many lower boards. Any advice is welcome!

Submitted by : enfant

** Hand # 2351517612 starting - 2009-01-06 20:58:09
** Orange Tag Daddy [Hold 'em] (0.10|0.20 NL - Cash Game) Real Money
Brassens1 sitting in seat 1 with $22.17
bighandant sitting in seat 2 with $14.94
enfant sitting in seat 3 with $31.18
naamis3 sitting in seat 4 with $10.43
DNliiga sitting in seat 5 with $12.21[Dealer]
Nossna sitting in seat 6 with $20.54
Nossna posted the small blind - $0.10
Brassens1 posted the big blind - $0.20

Holecards
   
bighandant called - $0.20
enfant raised to $1.00
naamis3 folded
DNliiga folded
Nossna folded
Brassens1 raised to $2.80
bighandant called - $2.80

so you're testing your patience then get the nuts then don't know what to do?

i don't get it. maybe relevent stats on brassens would help a bit. like if he was a 12/8 and 3 bet me in this spot then i might play with caution but still ship it in.

cuz i mean comeon man we got kings. he isn't going to fold JJ/QQ like ever. you're kidding yourself if he ever does.

and he ain't foldin teh Ace Kang either. stick in that 4 bet.

ALL IN!

we need the derek jeter "YES KINGS" picture again.

You're aware this is six max right?

-Sicks Macks

On January 06 2009 22:21 Sicks Macks wrote: You're aware this is six max right? -Sicks Macks

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how can you do anything but shove here

Yes i'm aware this is six max, actually ive been raising almost all of my hands from the cutoff & button and 90% of the time its folded to me. Try to read the description of the hand .. when a guy who hasn't played a hand in 1 hour raises you oop .. wtf matters if its 6 max or fullring?

I shoved, but i wanted to know what would be the optimal play here.

even if hes a meganit hes gotta be 3betting queens.

4bet

snap shove and get called by qq and ak

i dont like slowplaying so i always 4bet here depends on my opponents if i 4bet shove or just 4bet a nice amount of like 11-13

ezzz

Reraise and call a shove

train your patience? you don't nut peddle against nits.

fold. obv AA.

j/k! 4bet kind of small

4bet/call a shove


if a table is soooooooooooo tight u r nervious about getting it in w/ KK then you have to do one of two things
1. leave the table (most preferable)
2. go bat shit insane w/ a PFR>30 and 3bet>20 and just run everyone the fuck over


playing standard tight or nit tight on a nit tight table is just break even waste of time tilt inducing poker

4bet/call shove