NL20 BVB vs unknown reg

I just know this guy is a reg because I've seen him around a lot, though I don't have any history with him.

I was confused on the turn.. I guess i have to fold here. Only reason I kept with it was because of the flush draw, so I knew I had atleast 30% equity. I guess I'm still way behind though..

I dunno, thoughts on this hand?

Submitted by : terrybunny19240

PokerStars Game #736011528000554: Holdem No Limit ($0.1/$0.2) - 2009/01/05 - 15:17:06 (ET)
Table Cake_ Calgary 11528 6-max Seat #9 is the button
Seat 5: Night2o1 ($19.90 in chips)
Seat 6: poke*** ($13.35 in chips)
Seat 7: kali*** ($19.35 in chips)
Seat 8: Imor*** ($20.00 in chips)
Seat 9: Pada*** ($23.10 in chips)
Seat 10: Span*** ($19.60 in chips)
Span***: posts small blind $0.10
Night2o1: posts big blind $0.20

Holecards(Odds)
Dealt to Night2o1
poke***: folds
kali***: folds
Pada***: folds
Span***: raises $0.60 to $0.80
Night2o1: raises $1.60 to $2.40
Span***: calls $1.60

Flop(Odds) (Pot : $4.80)

   
Span***: checks
Night2o1: bets $3.66
Span***: calls $3.66

Turn(Odds) (Pot : $12.12)

   
Span***: bets $7.56
Night2o1: raises $6.28 to $13.84 and is all-in
Span***: calls $5.98 and is all-in

River (Pot : $39.20)

   

Showdown
Span***: shows (Pair of Jacks)
Night2o1: mucks hand
Imor***: mucks hand
Span*** collected $37.25 from pot

Summary
Total pot $39.20 | Rake $1.95
Board  
Seat 5: Night2o1 (big blind) mucked
Seat 6: poke*** folded before Flop
Seat 7: kali*** folded before Flop
Seat 8: Imor*** mucked hand
Seat 9: Pada*** folded before Flop
Seat 10: Span*** (small blind) showed and won ($37.25) with Pair of Jacks

Eh, two overs, a gutshot, and flush draw. You were still almost 40% on the turn.

I probably play it the same.

seems standart to me, nh wp

Call turn imo, I can't see you possibly having any FE here.

On January 05 2009 17:12 edzwoo wrote: Call turn imo, I can't see you possibly having any FE here.

Amazingly bad idea... 40% equity on the turn is almost enough for shoving, don't need much fold equity to make it a profiting play and if you flat and brick the river you'll go: ''ROFLCOPTER, FML, I NEVER HIT !!!'' and feel stupid for putting it, what, 2/3-3/4 of your stack with this hand and seeing a river without having it in the middle already.

The only thing I don't exceptionally like is the 3-bet, you have position with not that great of a hand. Sure AQ is good but I don't always love getting called preflop and folding out a shitload (usually) that you beat by 3-betting preflop. It's not a huge mistake but I'd probably just flat and underrep my hand a bit, you are in position anyways. After you 3-bet I think flop plays kind of itself, seems ok spot to c-bet even for a 3-bet pot and turn is like, gogogo gamblaments with 40% equity !!!

gutshot royal flush + 2 overs = shove

i also agree with not 3 betting this guy pf

On January 05 2009 17:29 Kilay wrote: Show nested quote + On January 05 2009 17:12 edzwoo wrote: Call turn imo, I can't see you possibly having any FE here. Amazingly bad idea... 40% equity on the turn is almost enough for shoving, don't need much fold equity to make it a profiting play and if you flat and brick the river you'll go: ''ROFLCOPTER, FML, I NEVER HIT !!!'' and feel stupid for putting it, what, 2/3-3/4 of your stack with this hand and seeing a river without having it in the middle already.

lol what? you have 0 fold equity and you're certainly stacking him if you hit the river why not call and save yourself $6 if you miss

Ok confused this hand with another earlier edited:

First of all AQs is a monster, but there is nothing wrong with flatting and
playing in position.

Cbet is fine as played.

Again as played on turn you have 0 fold equity so I like a call better than a shove. As has already been said you save $6 every time you miss, and villain will get his last $6 in on any river including the ones you hit.

hum, thanks guys. guess flatting is most+EV but shove wasn't horrible?

Shove is still marginally +EV.

Put is this way, we run the hand 100 times. 61 times we call and miss, that's a loss of 61 x $7.56 = $461.16

OR

61 times we shove and miss that's a loss of 61 x $13.54 = $825.94

39 times we call and hit and he gets his last $6 in (which we assume he will on any river), thats 39 x $25.66 (the pot plus his remaining $5.98) = $1000.74

WHICHEVER WAY YOU LIKE YOUR VARIANCE I SUPPOSE

call turn

On January 06 2009 02:41 anotherdream wrote: call turn

this
i think u have 0 FE and u save money if river misses

I don't always cbet that flop

with ur hand

depends what i think of his 3bet calling range

- I c-bet $4.2 - 4.4 flop
- Shove turn