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phexac   United States. Jan 05 2009 13:26. Posts 2563

Villain is a weak stationy player with 37/13 stats. Minraise PF is normal for him. I think his range here is not that strong on average, if only because it would be hard for him to have something strong with us holding top 2. Villain is also prone to barreling unopposed with high aggression frequency on later streets.

That said, assuming we think we have the best hand at this point, is it better to flat-call or raise this flop? One subjective thing to consider is that, since the beginning of the year, I have been on a downswing, so if there is a 2 to 3 outer out there, he's gona hit it

In all seriousness though, do we worry about draws and work to protect our hand since it's 3-way and we are deep with the main villain, and there are quite a few cards we don't want to see or do we try to trap and take advantage of his barreling tendencies?

Submitted by : phexac

PokerStars Game #23599165516: Holdem No Limit ($2/$4) - 2009/01/05 13:03:38 ET
Table Haidea 6-max Seat #4 is the button
Seat 1: voffe21 ($737.95 in chips)
Seat 2: Stalker6473 ($587.65 in chips)
Seat 3: mckmo ($400 in chips)
Seat 4: Hero ($583.40 in chips)
Seat 5: myke11 ($416.35 in chips)
Seat 6: Gogols Nose ($394 in chips)
myke11: posts small blind $2
Gogols Nose: posts big blind $4

Holecards
Dealt to Hero TcKc
voffe21: folds
voffe21 is sitting out
voffe21 leaves the table
Stalker6473: raises $4 to $8
mckmo: folds
Hero: calls $8
myke11: calls $6
Gogols Nose: folds

Flop (Pot : $28.00)

   KhTs7c
myke11: checks
Stalker6473: bets $16
Hero:

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Joe   Czech Republic. Jan 05 2009 13:54. Posts 5987

The pot is still very small, it is 3-way and there is several straight draws out there => you definately wanna raise here to protect ur hand and build the pot.

If the weaker player has any kind of draw he is probably calling anyway and so is he with like any top pair I think.

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Balzamon   Sweden. Jan 05 2009 14:35. Posts 2868

i raise to 52


TalentedTom    Canada. Jan 05 2009 14:45. Posts 20070

flop play is quite meaningless here just dump some money into this pot

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TalentedTom    Canada. Jan 05 2009 14:51. Posts 20070

if your calling here on a regular basis your downswing isnt because your running bad*

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Twisted    Netherlands. Jan 05 2009 14:55. Posts 10422


  On January 05 2009 13:51 TalentedTom wrote:
if you're thinking about the possibility of calling here on a regular basis your downswing isnt because your running bad*



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phexac   United States. Jan 05 2009 15:22. Posts 2563


  On January 05 2009 13:51 TalentedTom wrote:
if your calling here on a regular basis your downswing isnt because your running bad*



No, I normally don't call here. Point of the thread was to see if there would be any proponents of calling.

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YoMeR   United States. Jan 05 2009 16:38. Posts 12438

do a smiley in the chat then say "raisey daisy"

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YoMeR   United States. Jan 05 2009 16:50. Posts 12438

i mean. we are looking for non A/Q/J/9/8/6 turns in which we can comfortably get it in.

sounds like a pretty bad plan imo.

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Splasher   United Kingdom. Jan 05 2009 20:35. Posts 19

Mix up between call raise,against a passive type I'm defo raising.He aint gonna bluff the turn if we just call,so the aim on the flop must be to build that pot up so we have a good chance of getting his stack by the river

Merits to calling don't exist against this type imo.Against an agreesive reg I'd call flop,maybe call turn/prob 30% of time raise turn,shove good river

 Last edit: 05/01/2009 20:37

 



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