50nl 6max, Nut straight OOP on gross board

Submitted by : sniderstyle

PokerStars Game #22620330192: Holdem No Limit ($0.25/$0.50) - 2008/12/04 15:31:30 ET
Table Sextans V 6-max Seat #3 is the button
Seat 1: boldyrev357 ($34.30 in chips)
Seat 2: guust8888 ($35.60 in chips)
Seat 3: mrvols16 ($90.75 in chips)
Seat 4: CaptDrew ($50.25 in chips)
Seat 5: kboz ($53.95 in chips)
Seat 6: mixmastered ($59.65 in chips)
CaptDrew: posts small blind $0.25
kboz : posts big blind $0.50

Holecards
Dealt to kboz
mixmastered: folds
boldyrev357: raises $0.50 to $1
guust8888: folds
mrvols16: calls $1
CaptDrew: calls $0.75
kboz : calls $0.50

Flop (Pot : $4.00)

   
CaptDrew: checks
kboz : checks
boldyrev357: checks
mrvols16: bets $1.50
CaptDrew: folds
kboz : raises $4 to $5.50
boldyrev357: calls $5.50
mrvols16: calls $4

Turn (Pot : $20.50)

   
kboz : bets $12
boldyrev357: folds
mrvols16: calls $12

River (Pot : $44.50)

   
kboz : bets $14
mrvols16: raises $58.25 to $72.25 and is all-in
kboz : folds
Uncalled bet ($58.25) returned to mrvols16
mrvols16 collected $69.50 from pot
mrvols16: doesnt show hand

Summary
Total pot $72.50 | Rake $3
Board  
Seat 1: boldyrev357 folded on the Turn
Seat 2: guust8888 folded before Flop (didnt bet)
Seat 3: mrvols16 (button) collected ($69.50)
Seat 4: CaptDrew (small blind) folded on the Flop
Seat 5: kboz (big blind) folded on the River
Seat 6: mixmastered folded before Flop (didnt bet)

I think turn is fine, but I c/ call a small bet on river

prolly lead this flop

i thought about leading the flop but then I thoguht because it was so draw heavy, i could potentially represent a combo draw with a check raise and still might get action from AT+ and would be easier to get the chips in on later streets with more money in the pot.

Where if I lead, thhose hands might be scared to raise me and I'll just get the pot pot pot bets without building the pot too much to stack em'. Playing OOP sucks.. fold pre imo.

On December 04 2008 15:36 sniderstyle wrote: Playing OOP sucks.. fold pre imo.

lol this too

if you were going to c/r isn't it better to raise more?

yeah probably.

no one thinks u should check the turn?

Well the perks of betting the turn are you get QJ, KT, QT, AT, to call

But checking keeps the pot small and you can check/call check/fold the river.

Are we missing value from those hands or just combinatorially are there as many flushes as made hands here?

well firstly if those hands don't have a heart they prolly aren't calling, and if they do have a heart u aren't that far ahead

but the main problem is that a flush is calling the turn bet too... so what are we just going to bet out again on the river into a flush, forcing ourselves to call?
unless of course we bet as pussy as this guy did in which case we are asking to be bluffed

On December 04 2008 15:36 sniderstyle wrote: Where if I lead, thhose hands might be scared to raise me and I'll just get the pot pot pot bets without building the pot too much to stack em'.

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