Nl25 2 Pair in a 3bet, I folded

He's 14/8/1.5. I figure everything I was getting value from pulled ahead on this turn, except for AQ which doesn't bet. Thoughts?

Submitted by : Sicks Macks

Full Tilt Poker Game #9319985917: Table Reagan (6 max) - $0.10/$0.25 - No Limit Hold'em - 15:49:45 ET - 2008/12/04
Seat 1: goslee ($25)
Seat 3: NicoZipfel23 ($25.95)
Seat 4: Juhlberg ($36.45)
Seat 5: Hero ($48.20)
Seat 6: Teijo ($10.90)
Hero posts the small blind of $0.10
Teijo posts the big blind of $0.25
The button is in seat #4

Holecards
Dealt to Hero
goslee folds
NicoZipfel23 folds
Juhlberg raises to $0.85
Hero has 15 seconds left to act
Hero raises to $2.80
Teijo folds
Juhlberg calls $1.95

Flop (Pot : $5.85)

   
Hero bets $4.50
Juhlberg calls $4.50

Turn (Pot : $14.85)

    kc
Hero has 15 seconds left to act
Hero checks
Juhlberg bets $12
Hero has 15 seconds left to act
Hero folds
Uncalled bet of $12 returned to Juhlberg
Juhlberg mucks
Juhlberg wins the pot ($14.15)

Summary
Total pot $14.85 | Rake $0.70
Board:
Seat 1: goslee didn't bet (folded)
Seat 3: NicoZipfel23 didn't bet (folded)
Seat 4: Juhlberg (button) collected ($14.15), mucked
Seat 5: Hero (small blind) folded on the Turn
Seat 6: Teijo (big blind) folded before the Flop

Everyone is ok with c/f 2 pair here?

i like flatting more pre. raising pre he will call all better and fold all worse.

On December 04 2008 16:28 fakeshaver wrote: i like flatting more pre. raising pre he will call all better and fold all worse.

I'd rather fold than flat, being OOP. Against a button open I'll raise and use the fold equity, because my hand gets really tough to play on a lot of flops.

And I don't think his IP calling range is just PPs and AQ+.

well i dont think we have much fold equity pre considering he is openign such a small percentage of hands. folding might be better then both options. also i dont like using such a powerful hand as AJs for its fold equity. i liek flatting pre and making moves on low boards that i can rep well and letting him bluff ace high boards and stuff.

I bet/fold that turn.

On December 04 2008 18:28 RICHI8 wrote: I bet/fold that turn.

To get value from what? Or as a blokcer?

would you also c/f ak?

ohh he is a fucking nit

don't 3bet him pre

On December 04 2008 18:53 traxamillion wrote: would you also c/f ak?

No I'd prob bet/fold that...

FWIW, I'm a lot more worried about AK than clubs.

this is good
bad turn

On December 04 2008 18:36 Sicks Macks wrote: Show nested quote + On December 04 2008 18:28 RICHI8 wrote: I bet/fold that turn. To get value from what? Or as a blokcer?

As a blocker but your fold isn't bad. I guess that 3 bet preflop kind of saved your life because him being so nitty you can pretty much only be ahead of 2 of his hands AQ and QQ but I don't think someone as nitty as him would bet the turn like that with either of those hands. The 3bet kind of screwed you too though because now the pot is decently sized.

3betting for value vs an 8% opener with AJs is bad imo

against a nit Id call this pre most of the time even tho you're oop - it's suited and a bit deep. as played turn owns you so that's a little close between b/f and c/f but I believe c/f is better for he might fold alot of AQ on the turn and doesn't tend to bet it often if checked to... yeah u played this fine I think... it's a bet/fold if you believe he gets to that point with KJ/AT(-) tho..