[NL]-20 can you put him on a hand?

Submitted by : ortak

***** Hand History for Game 2294988405 *****
$20.00 USD NL Texas Holdem - Tuesday, December 02, 10:16:14 ET 2008
Table Yellow Hook (Real Money)
Seat 2 is the button
Seat 1: lambiain ( $18.25 USD )
Seat 2: Hero ( $39.73 USD )
Seat 3: Hjah ( $11.65 USD )
Seat 4: Grigorov ( $20.52 USD )
Seat 5: Wahlstrom88 ( $14.46 USD )
Seat 6: ITSSOOTED ( $31.65 USD )
Hjah posts small blind [$0.10 USD].
Grigorov posts big blind [$0.20 USD].

Holecards
   
Wahlstrom88 raises [$0.80 USD]
ITSSOOTED folds
lambiain folds
Hero raises [$2.80 USD]
Hjah folds
Grigorov folds
Wahlstrom88 calls [$2.00 USD]

Flop (Pot : $5.90)

   
Wahlstrom88 checks
Hero bets [$3.00 USD]
Wahlstrom88 calls [$3.00 USD]

Turn (Pot : $11.90)

   
Wahlstrom88 checks
Hero bets [$5.95 USD]
Wahlstrom88 calls [$5.95 USD]

River (Pot : $23.80)

   
Wahlstrom88 bets [$2.71 USD]
Hero calls [$2.71 USD]
Wahlstrom88 shows , ]
Hero doesn't show , ]
Wahlstrom88 wins $27.76 USD from main pot

You could bet more on flop and not bet turn, this is how i would play anyway.

bet more on the flop and shove any turn imo

set up a turn shove

other than that you got bad beated by a shortstack

it happens

standard. shove turn.

bet around 5 on flop, you want to get it in as fast as possible
=>Ez shove on turn

ya i can, QQ

I'd bet maybe $4-5 on flop and shove turn.
You should bet more cause of a straight draw and flush draw out.

3bet more PF to at least $2.60

All of the above

On December 02 2008 19:54 YoUr_KiLLeR wrote: ya i can, QQ

troll

Turn isn't a good card against his range but you are still way good to get it in here given the stack sizes.

and yeah I would say bet more on the flop because anything that is calling a bet is probably calling a close to pot bet as well and it makes it easier for you to get it in before the board gets worse and stuff. Standard cooler.

On December 03 2008 18:04 JoeDeertay wrote: Turn isn't a good card against his range but you are still way good to get it in here given the stack sizes.

Can you explain this? It seems to me that the turn card is only bad Vs AQ/QQ which is a small part of his range? Every other option this is not a bad card at all given board texture?

Agree about betting more on flop.

Once he has checked the turn I definitely put him on QhQc here so I don't see why you would even bet the turn. Check behind and fold river as played.


(bet slightly more on flop so that you have properly sized bets in relation to the pot. this way u can get your stack in the most effective way in general which should be your plan: bet flop, get it in on any turn. basically you played this fine just don't be scared to bet bigger if you're all-in anyways)

On December 03 2008 19:55 TallyHo wrote: Once he has checked the turn I definitely put him on QhQc here so I don't see why you would even bet the turn. Check behind and fold river as played. (bet slightly more on flop so that you have properly sized bets in relation to the pot. this way u can get your stack in the most effective way in general which should be your plan: bet flop, get it in on any turn. basically you played this fine just don't be scared to bet bigger if you're all-in anyways)

WTF - I usually like your posts TallyHo but I don't get this soul read? How can you put him on QhQC??? He is a short stack who could surely do this with anything from JJ+ to AQ/AK? How can you fold river to that bet (as played)?

On December 03 2008 18:04 JoeDeertay wrote: Turn isn't a good card against his range but you are still way good to get it in here given the stack sizes.

On December 03 2008 20:06 4Kingell wrote: Show nested quote + On December 03 2008 19:55 TallyHo wrote: Once he has checked the turn I definitely put him on QhQc here so I don't see why you would even bet the turn. Check behind and fold river as played. (bet slightly more on flop so that you have properly sized bets in relation to the pot. this way u can get your stack in the most effective way in general which should be your plan: bet flop, get it in on any turn. basically you played this fine just don't be scared to bet bigger if you're all-in anyways) WTF - I usually like your posts TallyHo but I don't get this soul read? How can you put him on QhQC??? He is a short stack who could surely do this with anything from JJ+ to AQ/AK? How can you fold river to that bet (as played)?

well, if he had the Qd he'd most likely c/r flop with his draw so I put him on { QhQc }. as for the river... I mean... what is pot odds anyways? if you have a read you gotta go with it. a man's gotta know when he's beat, so whats the point of calling? I might have bet the turn to be 100% sure that he has the ladies you know but Im gonna muck this to any further action.

On December 02 2008 21:48 vlseph wrote: Show nested quote + On December 02 2008 19:54 YoUr_KiLLeR wrote: ya i can, QQ troll

just commenting that someone else is a troll makes you a troll too btw kthnxbye