NL25 I play like a donkey in limped pots

It's really cheap, my hand is underrepped, but what do I beat?

Submitted by : Sicks Macks

Full Tilt Poker Game #9115131920: Table Melissa (6 max) - $0.10/$0.25 - No Limit Hold'em - 19:18:44 ET - 2008/11/22
Seat 1: CandyAndPr0n ($25), is sitting out
Seat 2: docfreddc ($16.60)
Seat 3: catrapper ($23.80)
Seat 4: Hero ($25)
Seat 5: Tagalag ($41.40)
Seat 6: preflop555 ($24.60)
catrapper posts the small blind of $0.10
Hero posts the big blind of $0.25
The button is in seat #2

Holecards
Dealt to Hero
Tagalag folds
preflop555 calls $0.25
docfreddc folds
catrapper calls $0.15
Hero checks

Flop (Pot : $0.75)

   
catrapper bets $0.50
Hero calls $0.50
preflop555 calls $0.50

Turn (Pot : $2.25)

   
catrapper bets $1
Hero calls $1
preflop555 calls $1

River (Pot : $5.25)

   
catrapper checks
Hero checks
preflop555 bets $2.75
catrapper calls $2.75
Hero has 15 seconds left to act
Hero has requested TIME

I like calling

we're putting them both on jacks or lower kings?

Their range is huge IMO. I think we are good a large % of the time when calling, but raising is too dangerous since we are 3way. I don't think you can ever fold this spot with trips and a good kicker.. hell no. I just hate that it is 3way.

I might raise turn though. Probably get it heads up and probably have position on the river?

I think you're most likely beat but the pot is big enough for it to be worth a call. You should have raised earlier though IMO.

I agree with you both on raising earlier... It's ridiculous my AF is like 4 in raise pots and like 0.0000000009 in limped pots.

raise flop

bet bet bet, Drawy board and you are far from nuts.Ajust to scenario.

On November 22 2008 23:12 traxamillion wrote: raise flop

Doesn't that allow them to play perfectly as they know my hand?

On November 23 2008 00:19 Sicks Macks wrote: Show nested quote + On November 22 2008 23:12 traxamillion wrote: raise flop Doesn't that allow them to play perfectly as they know my hand?

Well otherwise you give free draws to the others. If they are fish, it doesn't matter what they think because they will pay you off with worse hands, and of course you know you shouldn't be slowplaying them vs fish. If they are regs, they would be terrible to put your hand on strictly a K. I would often raise here with a draw as well.

On November 23 2008 00:19 Sicks Macks wrote: Show nested quote + On November 22 2008 23:12 traxamillion wrote: raise flop Doesn't that allow them to play perfectly as they know my hand?

Its NL25 they probably dont know their own hand.
If you have the nuts and an NL25 player folds to a raise its not because youre transparent its because he sees a raise and hes scared of it. You could have any hand on any board in similar situation and hed still fold. I definitely wait till the turn vs random opponent to raise tho, because this board is rather scary. Again not a hand, the board. You might have 0 kings in your range here and hed still fold. However there are a lot of opponents as well against whom id freely raise flop.

raise flop raise flop raise flop raise flop raise flop raise flop (and then lead turn aggressively)

QT or 2 clubs (AND a QJ/AJ/TJ type hand likely) call 2 streets of value here. you're doing yourself a terrible thing letting them draw essentially for free. you get called by QT, 2 clubs or a lone jack and only very rarely a stronger king, and if you raise flop or turn and get played back at then we can start considering whether or not you are beat, by raising flop you not only get value from their weaker hands but you find out where exactly you stand with your not-so-hot kicker

on the river as played i think theres a fair argument to fold particularly because the flush got there but that is so not the key point of this hand imo. on the other hand you're getting sick like 4.2:1 or something odds so it will never be a bad call if you do make it, i think its close.

You should definitely raise turn seeing as the player after you called, so you can expect he'll do the same on the turn--probably a draw. So yea, raise turn. As played I'd have to just call river.

not raising the flop is a leak for sure. as played raise turn indeed and since you called turn, call river!