another omaha question

Submitted by : Nazgul

PokerStars Game #22242293879: Omaha Pot Limit ($10/$20) - 2008/11/21 17:10:52 ET
Table 'Ra-Shalom III' 6-max Seat #1 is the button
Seat 1: Gladys67 ($400 in chips)
Seat 2: Norm427 ($2459 in chips)
Seat 4: jessica88 ($1284.30 in chips)
Seat 5: Nazgul18 ($3835.50 in chips)
Seat 6: gordo16 ($1320 in chips)
Norm427: posts small blind $10
tralaira: is sitting out
jessica88: posts big blind $20

Holecards(Odds)
Dealt to Nazgul18
Nazgul18 : raises $50 to $70
gordo16: folds
Gladys67: folds
Norm427: calls $60
jessica88: raises $210 to $280
Nazgul18 : calls $210
Norm427: raises $660 to $940
jessica88: raises $344.30 to $1284.30 and is all-in
Nazgul18 has timed out
Nazgul18 : folds
Nazgul18 is sitting out
Nazgul18 has returned
Norm427: calls $344.30

Flop(Odds) (Pot : $2,848.60)

   

Turn(Odds) (Pot : $2,848.60)

   

River (Pot : $2,848.60)

   

Showdown
Norm427: shows (two pair, Aces and Kings)
jessica88: shows (two pair, Aces and Kings)
Norm427 collected $1423.30 from pot
jessica88 collected $1423.30 from pot

Summary
Total pot $2848.60 | Rake $2
Board  
Seat 1: Gladys67 (button) folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 2: Norm427 (small blind) showed and won ($1423.30) with two pair, Aces and Kings
Seat 4: jessica88 (big blind) showed and won ($1423.30) with two pair, Aces and Kings
Seat 5: Nazgul18 folded before Flop
Seat 6: gordo16 folded before Flop (didn't bet)

norm427 will have $1500 left after I make this call btw

it's a call (hmm actually you should split the calculations into 2 since one is a shortstack) if you know for sure they both have AA**

propokertools.com

Hand Pot equity Wins Ties
AA** 33.26% 100,338 198,492
AA** 33.19% 99,914 198,464
KdKcQhJd 33.55% 200,828 887

And if one has a medium wrap

AA** 45.13% 269,805 1,927
89TJ 29.88% 177,794 2,978
KdKcQhJd 25.00% 149,062 1,848

no way i call

firstly, you aren't going to get to see turn and river if you have a total miss on flop, because the guy with money left is gonna push and ur gonna have to fold

secondly, your hand is only single suited, and your kings don't really mean shit. this hand is the same as KQJJ here, or even 7765. would you call with 7765?

i'd be more likely to call in your spot with 4 different cards than a hand with a pair

quite often ur suited cards won't even be good here