omahahaha question

Submitted by : Nazgul

PokerStars Game #22192609529: Omaha Pot Limit ($5/$10) - 2008/11/19 21:28:07 ET
Table 'Tautenburg' 6-max Seat #3 is the button
Seat 1: DrEskilstuna ($1007 in chips)
Seat 2: krmont22 ($1000 in chips)
Seat 3: TheL0bster ($1635.40 in chips)
Seat 4: michaelsc ($1346.35 in chips)
Seat 5: Nazgul18 ($1961 in chips)
Seat 6: imaboss3 ($824 in chips)
michaelsc: posts small blind $5
Nazgul18 : posts big blind $10

Holecards(Odds)
Dealt to Nazgul18
imaboss3: calls $10
DrEskilstuna: raises $20 to $30
krmont22: folds
TheL0bster: raises $80 to $110
michaelsc: calls $105
Nazgul18 : calls $100
imaboss3: calls $100
DrEskilstuna: calls $80

Flop(Odds) (Pot : $550.00)

   
michaelsc: checks
Nazgul18 : checks
imaboss3: bets $547
DrEskilstuna: raises $350 to $897 and is all-in
TheL0bster: raises $628.40 to $1525.40 and is all-in
michaelsc: folds
Nazgul18 : folds
imaboss3: calls $167 and is all-in
Uncalled bet ($628.40) returned to TheL0bster

Turn(Odds) (Pot : $2,875.00)

   

River (Pot : $2,875.00)

   

Showdown
DrEskilstuna: shows (three of a kind, Queens)
TheL0bster: mucks hand
DrEskilstuna collected $366 from side pot
imaboss3: mucks hand
DrEskilstuna collected $2689 from main pot

Summary
Total pot $3058 Main pot $2689. Side pot $366. | Rake $3
Board  
Seat 1: DrEskilstuna showed and won ($3055) with three of a kind, Queens
Seat 2: krmont22 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 3: TheL0bster (button) mucked
Seat 4: michaelsc (small blind) folded on the Flop
Seat 5: Nazgul18 (big blind) folded on the Flop
Seat 6: imaboss3 mucked

looks fine, u def have to get AI if it folds to you on the flop OR one of the shovers is a huge fish. otherwise this is such a gross setupi hand i wanna puke

one question for you...

in this spot
on the flop ask yourself: How much do I want to gamble? cause that's all you're really doing if you call there.. you have to dodge every diamond, and card that pairs the board while chasing no better than a 5-6 outer here at times.

you are monstrous underdog here if you do call in this multi-way pot... although we see that you would have won... this was a good fold.
this is not as good a hand as many might think.

like i implied in hh, imo its a spot where u should pretty much always fold since you could easily have way fewer outs than you think even for someone like me who likes to mash buttons with wraps.

j/10/k would be interesting

hmhm

does the fact that if I call we're heads up for a $1200 sidepot have any influence? what if it was a 2k sidepot or maybe even bigger?

I snap fold.

On November 20 2008 01:49 Nazgul wrote: hmhm does the fact that if I call we're heads up for a $1200 sidepot have any influence? what if it was a 2k sidepot or maybe even bigger?

I don't think I would put much emphasis on that.

I'm probably just talking out of my ass though. I play PLO by mashing buttons. It's fun.

v easy fold imo

On November 20 2008 01:49 Nazgul wrote: hmhm does the fact that if I call we're heads up for a $1200 sidepot have any influence? what if it was a 2k sidepot or maybe even bigger?

you want to be playing for the main pot...

If you do call, and lose the main pot, and win the side pot of $1200, you're still taking a $900 loss....

2k sidepot would be more interesting though... but you would still lose money if you didn't win the main pot...

seriously though, you made the correct fold, calling is a donkish and very bad play...

There will be much more better spots than this in the future, guaranteed