nl10 hand flushdraw on flop

Submitted by : CheckMyName

PokerStars Game #22175467130: Hold'em No Limit ($0.05/$0.10) - 2008/11/19 16:10:30 CET [2008/11/19 10:10:30 ET]
Table 'Libra' 6-max Seat #2 is the button
Seat 1: Hero ($11.40 in chips)
Seat 2: biquet83 ($24.95 in chips)
Seat 4: 85SliME ($16.45 in chips)
Seat 5: xsolitudex ($12.60 in chips)
Seat 6: koxxx ($9.70 in chips)
85SliME: posts small blind $0.05
xsolitudex: posts big blind $0.10

Holecards(Odds)
Dealt to Hero
Vitorbrasil leaves the table
koxxx: folds
Hero : raises $0.30 to $0.40
biquet83: raises $0.30 to $0.70
85SliME: folds
xsolitudex: folds
Hero : calls $0.30

Flop(Odds) (Pot : $1.55)

   
Hero : bets $1.20
biquet83: raises $1.20 to $2.40
85SliME said, "nh"
Hero : raises $8.30 to $10.70 and is all-in
biquet83: calls $8.30

Turn(Odds) (Pot : $22.95)

   

River (Pot : $22.95)

   

Showdown
Hero : shows (a flush, Ace high)
biquet83: mucks hand
Hero collected $21.85 from pot

Summary
Total pot $22.95 | Rake $1.10
Board  
Seat 1: Hero showed and won ($21.85) with a flush, Ace high
Seat 2: biquet83 (button) mucked
Seat 4: 85SliME (small blind) folded before Flop
Seat 5: xsolitudex (big blind) folded before Flop
Seat 6: koxxx folded before Flop (didn't bet)

Dont like the call PF, your hand performs very poorly against his range and you will be OOP for the rest of the hand.

he minbet??

You have A8o?

fold pf

I WONT POST HANDS ANYMORE OMFG

On November 19 2008 09:40 CheckMyName wrote: he minbet??

PRecisely why you should have folded - min bets at this level tend to indicate extreme strength or donks and without a read its difficult to tell what this one is. Either fold when re raise or 4 bet him if you have evidence to suggest that he might be 3 betting you light

On November 19 2008 11:13 CheckMyName wrote: I WONT POST HANDS ANYMORE OMFG

chill the fuck out, you wanted advice you got advice. Your hand plays really shitty against KK and AA and that's what he has 97.4549832565% of the time

I don't mind the call pre if you can get away with it post. But I certainly don't like to lead out with this hand because he will probably raise a range against which you have around 40%-50 equity and you'll be more or less forced to get it in and it's unlikely he ever folds once he raises and if he calls your lead out you might as well let him do the betting. I guess a better option for value is to let him bet so that you can lead out once you hit. he's probably not capable of folding a K/Q high flush then. you can also c/r flop but then again you will only fold out hands that you want to stay in because of implied odds when he also hits a flush.

On November 19 2008 09:37 squip wrote: Dont like the call PF, your hand performs very poorly against his range and you will be OOP for the rest of the hand.

cause you know his range?
rofl

...
You have 44% to win agaisnt KxKh
and something like 46% if he have QQ(no h)
Yes its kinda useless but wtf
putting money in the pot are isnt that bad
you guys all are nits

you are flipping vs a sick shit load of hands so fuck that its all good
play it the same with the nuts next time that all

as if people would realize the lines you take.. I don't think theres any reason to make a neutral EV play here if it can be +ev against bad players to check the flop.

like your line if you had the "nuts" tho

I hate this pre because it's a garbage hand to any sort of raise. By calling his minraise you are actually hurting yourself because of huge negative implied odds when he has you dominated.

As played though, this is by far the most perfect flop you could ask for. Your line is fine, as is a c/r -> try to get it in.

But seriously calling pre is really bad. It's like calling with K4 because of pot odds in a multiway pot, only to end up losing a quarter of your stack to KQ.