NL100 AA vs WTF line

So Villain is fresh at the table, no stats or reads. I feel like I am in a flipping / crushed situation, and the odds are horrible, I have the Ah so it kind of rules out some flush draw combos, further leaning Villain's range towards 2pair, set, combo draws, straight, right? But the line is kind of stupid, huge overshove by a limp/calling, possibly weak player seems strange to me with a monster, how to proceed?

Submitted by : Repusz

***** Hand History for Game 1217391439 *****
$100.00 USD NL Texas Hold'em - Wednesday, October 15, 04:25:16 ET 2008
Table Ellerton (No DP) (Real Money)
Seat 1 is the button
Seat 1: DontLeaveIraq ( $118.75 USD )
Seat 3: Hero ( $267.90 USD )
Seat 6: bonnbonn86 ( $25.05 USD )
Seat 8: MissLapa ( $110.40 USD )
Seat 10: yossarian99 ( $95.70 USD )
Hero posts small blind [$0.50 USD].
bonnbonn86 posts big blind [$1.00 USD].

Holecards
Dealt to Hero
MissLapa folds
yossarian99 calls [$1.00 USD]
DontLeaveIraq folds
Hero raises [$5.50 USD]
bonnbonn86 folds
yossarian99 calls [$5.00 USD]

Flop (Pot : $13.00)

   
Hero bets [$13.00 USD]
yossarian99 raises [$89.70 USD]
Hero : LOL QUE?

I pokerstoved this range, this is as wide as it gets, right? Any fixes for the ranges?


Board: 5h 8c 9h
Dead:

equity win tie pots won pots tied
Hand 0: 41.551% 41.09% 00.47% 22778 258.00 { AdAh }
Hand 1: 58.449% 57.98% 00.47% 32146 258.00 { TT-55, KhQh, KhJh, KhTh, QhJh, JhTh, 98s, 8h7h, 7h6h, 6h4h, 98o, 76o }


If I remove: TT 66 77


Board: 5h 8c 9h
Dead:

equity win tie pots won pots tied
Hand 0: 23.410% 22.84% 00.57% 8594 213.00 { AdAh }
Hand 1: 76.590% 76.02% 00.57% 28600 213.00 { 99-88, 55, KhQh, KhJh, KhTh, QhJh, JhTh, 98s, 8h7h, 7h6h, 6h4h, 98o, 76o }

I need slightly more than 39% equity.

EDIT: I forgot to add QhTh, but it doesn't significantly increase my equity.

that could be 66 or 77 or fd. i would think he plays sets and straights a little slower. just call.

this is almost never the nuts, much more likely are combinations of heart draws with 8x or something like fd+straight draws with overcards (eg TJh/TQh) down to worse flush draws or even draws like JTo/87/97/66/77 and I also wouldnt be surprised to see TT-KK here sometimes. youre def ahead, call

call and river a 5 on his 9/8.

no stats? if u are a regular that would rule him as a fish, snappity snap

On October 15 2008 12:22 Baal wrote: no stats? if u are a regular that would rule him as a fish, snappity snap

I am a regular, and he did seem fishy but kind of weak passive, it was his third orbit at the table IIRC, and no real plays by him yet to note anything.

Thanks for all the replies, it seems I have turned from a spewtard into a weak tight nit cuz I folded

It is just that before this session I had a 40k hand breakeven stretch, losing 12 buyins in like 10k hands, and while it was mostly running bad (I was 12 buyin below expectation) I did make way too many bad calls, getting it in light vs straightforward tight regulars. I guess a fish is still a fish and should have called
Whatever, still +6.5 buyins in 900 hands

I dont mind a fold that much, imo this is very often 2 pairs rather than fd

I don't mind a fold. I have seen a lot of people do this with a flopped set trying to rep a draw. If he is a passive fish, it's an argument for folding. Of course sometimes you see villain repeatedly doing this and then you feel like an idiot. But generally speaking, in this case I think it's a very high-variance call.

folding against stupid fish here is like burning money

if u fold here u should fold LIFE

You guys really think PASSIVE fish is shoving 9x, 8x, or a draw here more often than 98, 99, 88, 55, 76 ?

On October 15 2008 14:39 Baal wrote: folding against stupid fish here is like burning money

this

BTW this is an extremley easy call

there's absolutley nothing to discuss here

cool, thanks for all the input, I guess I'll be posting more stupid hands till I regain confidence lol

i'd call because passive fish like...play tight and weak for a while then suddenly blow up thinking that you'll fold aces because they're tight

happens constantly in live games

just call

On October 15 2008 21:18 [vital]Myth wrote: i'd call because passive fish like...play tight and weak for a while then suddenly blow up thinking that you'll fold aces because they're tight happens constantly in live games just call

I really doubt the villain in this case is thinking about what his opponent has. He's just shoving based on his cards.