50NL - Some hands

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lazymej Canada. Oct 07 2008 23:18. Posts 2897

Actually, quite a few hands. Please bear with me as this turned out longer than I expected, sorry Comments please, thanks in advance

Hand 1
Do you guys think I can call this? The thing is he's a super passive fish and that is a huge fucking raise... Paired board, backdoor flush, hmm

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Hand 2
should I be checking river here? He's a calling station fish... 48/12/0.9. I guess either way if I check it I'm calling any bet he makes including a shove so it doesn't really matter?

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Hand 3
I had no idea whether he will cbet or not..
If that's the case should I always be leading here multiway?

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Hand 4
This happens too much of the time that it seems to be a major money leak for me. I 3bet or call a 3bet with AK IP or OOP, and it misses and I don't know what to do. Sometimes I will cbet the flop if I 3bet pf, or sometimes I will check/fold if he bets. How should I be playing this?

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Hand 5
Does this look fine?

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Hand 6
He was pretty fishy so I had no idea what his range is like. I raise only to half pot on the river because I'm sure he'll turn up something retarded like QT for the nuts (trend of the session if you like). Is this EV- and should I be raising bigger anyway? Of course I did not put him on two pair let alone K6.

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Hand 7
Against another fishy guy, as you will probably be able to tell when you see the showdown. Disregarding his trash hand obv, I want to know if checking river is best here. I did so in case he was calling me down with some random 8 hand.

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Hand 8
Do you guys think raising the flop here is more EV+ than just calling?

Should I bet the turn here after picking up a OESD as well as my nutflush draw? I decided not to since the pot was so huge so I figured shit would probably hit the fan if I did.

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Hand 9
Should I be raising flop here? I guess so..

He's 16/14/2.5 over 189 reg type

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Hand 10
Can I play this hand? No history with the villain except he's 28/18/3.7 over 87 hands.

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Hand 11
As some of you may know, PiS.AA is a fucking uber nit. He's like 6/4 over 300+ hands. Anyways, disregarding my flop bet which was a mistake obv, am I ever good playing for stacks against someone who I know is the largest nit in life with TPTK? I suppose against someone THIS tight I can lay it down?

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Hand 12
Am I good getting it in here ever time against any villain? I guess so seeing as the equity on the flop makes it pretty much a flip.

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Hand 13
This is more of a general inquiry. What should I do when I am facing a 3bet when I hold a pocket pair for 100BB? I was told in order to make set-mining profitable, you should be getting 1:10. As in say you need to call $5, you should both have $50 left in your stacks.

And specifically in this case, I have two other people to act after me and they have already called the initial raise so things could get ugly. Am I correct to fold here?

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Sicks Macks United States. Oct 07 2008 23:57. Posts 3929

Disclaimer: I move between nl10 and nl25, I just felt like going over some hands.

1: I would bet pot on flop and turn, 3/4 on river, as played I really don't know. If he's passive just lay it down.

2: I actually have run into problems taking this exact same line on similar boards with overpairs against stations, but I think it's still good because all queens call if your read is right.

3: I bet half pot to keep overcards in (really only a FD and stray jacks hit this), but I think most good players bet 3/4-full like you did.

4: Very player dependent. Unless he's a massive nit I c-bet this against randoms (because often they'll 4bet QQ, and you have blockers on AA/KK, you can rep an overpair, and most of the time they won't hit this board unless they hit a set or FDs and overs, both rare enough to warrant a cbet to get them to fold random underpairs)

5: Yup

6: Fish probably doesn't massively underbet the nuts to induce, but I'm not sure he calls much more with stuff you beat.

7: Yup

8: I like a raise if you think either player will fold a jack in the face of action. Also I think aggression with equity in multiway pots is generally great because everyone fears the nuts.

9: Yup, raise, the hand gets really tough to play on a lot of turns and rivers.

10: Don't see a problem.

11: Is a nit's coldcall of a preflop 3bet every anything other pocket pairs? I think he's letting you know his is either higher than a queen or having a threesome.
Fold given player. You should also fold this to unknowns who don't seem overly loose, I think. I'd in fact weight his range in this situation much more to sets than AA/KK because he didn't seem too concerned about protecting his hand.

12: seems fine. I'd take a note that he seems to think TPTK is the nuts though and setmine him relentlessly.

13. Ugh, yeah hate it when that happens. You have to fold in this situation unless you are confident that the players left to act are passive enough to almost never 4bet.

Mr. Will Throwit

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TallyHo Malaysia. Oct 08 2008 07:41. Posts 384

wow that's alot of hands. but I'm a little bored atm, so..

1 pot flop/turn, don't gaybet river - rather check/call

2 looks good, but in this case I'd overbet flop,shove turn to get more value

3 leading is always fine in this situation (unfortunately they didnt connect)

4 3bet a little bigger. good flop for you (gutshot) - in general cbet J high, Q high flops, preferably (dry) high card flops and those which offer you good draws (if you don't have a good read). also I advise you to 4bet AK(o) pf most of the time

5 yeah looks fine but bet a little more on turn

6 if hes very fishy and minraises alot of crap then value3bet pre. river is not exactly -EV but I think you can bet 2/3 - 3/4 here to get more value

7 bet more on turn again (a lil more on flop), rest is good

8 nah flatting the flop is best against so many people, you want to keep worse draws in. turn you probably dont have enough FE, so just peel one like you did, wp

9 raising the flop to like 13 is an option "to know where you're at". but call flop is good (if you raise he folds all worse hands and probably comes over the top with better hands or high overcards + flushdraws). continue on turn according to his 2barrel-style. probably just fold this one - it's hitting his range really hard

10 standard fold

11 he has "it", fold turn

12 yeah u have the nuts get it in. but note against some tight players you would rather want to draw out on them and stack their sets/2p.

13 don't think about calling here

lazymej Canada. Oct 09 2008 02:47. Posts 2897

thanks, more opinions please?