river bluff HU

beginning of the match, I just stacked villian in this hand:

Submitted by : SakiSaki

PokerStars Game #20198344546: Hold'em No Limit ($2/$4) - 2008/09/06 16:21:22 ET
Table 'Cerberus II' 2-max Seat #2 is the button
Seat 1: cconnard ($404 in chips)
Seat 2: Hero ($484 in chips)
Hero : posts small blind $2
cconnard: posts big blind $4

Holecards(Odds)
Dealt to Hero
Hero : raises $8 to $12
cconnard: raises $32 to $44
Hero : calls $32

Flop(Odds) (Pot : $88.00)

   
cconnard: bets $55
Hero : calls $55

Turn(Odds) (Pot : $198.00)

   
cconnard: bets $155
Hero : raises $230 to $385 and is all-in
cconnard: calls $150 and is all-in
Uncalled bet ($80) returned to Hero

River (Pot : $808.00)

   

Showdown
cconnard: shows (a pair of Fours)
Hero : shows (two pair, Sevens and Fours)
Hero collected $807.50 from pot

Summary
Total pot $808 | Rake $0.50
Board  
Seat 1: cconnard (big blind) showed and lost with a pair of Fours
Seat 2: Hero (button) (small blind) showed and won ($807.50) with two pair, Sevens and Fours

oh right, the hand in question might be needed:

Submitted by : SakiSaki

PokerStars Game #20198371037: Hold'em No Limit ($2/$4) - 2008/09/06 16:22:24 ET
Table 'Cerberus II' 2-max Seat #2 is the button
Seat 1: cconnard ($400 in chips)
Seat 2: Hero ($883.50 in chips)
Hero : posts small blind $2
cconnard: posts big blind $4

Holecards
Dealt to Hero
Hero : raises $8 to $12
cconnard: raises $32 to $44
Hero : calls $32

Flop (Pot : $88.00)

   
cconnard: checks
Hero : bets $56
cconnard: calls $56

Turn (Pot : $200.00)

   
cconnard: checks
Hero : checks

River (Pot : $200.00)

   
cconnard: bets $100
Hero : raises $683.50 to $783.50 and is all-in

Asking for advice in hu is dumb imo

This can be good or bad depending on too many things. Like, if he has AQ/AK it's kinda of the same as if he has A6/A7/88 here in most cases so I don't really understand why AQ/AK would fold. Is he the hero calling type? Does he like to read into situations too much? Is he getting scared of getting into big pots? Does he feel like he's getting run over? The big issue here is whether or not you think he'll believe you, and your always going to be the best judge of that.

Keep in mind, most players assume that you in your spot will bet this flop with your entire range.

I feel that as the hand played out, I am way more likely to have a boat/flush here than he is and even though he is getting great odds does he really have anything with showdown value here?

I think he has showdown value here a very high % of the time btw. Check-calling the flop in his position is like the definition of marginal showdown value.

I swear [vital]Myth is not posting on my acc btw

I've just recently been really passionate about heads-up.

Ok ok

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I dont know of he is the hero calling type, we have played like 25 hands so far. And sure, he has showdown value when he calls the flop with AK/AQ but the idea that a random 2/4 player would call with that on the river is borderline laughable.

His line+river bet makes no sense,unless he flopped quads/fh.

Anyway,I like your play,since usually these kind of bets show weakness.

why would he bet/call with AK, AQ? if anything he'd check-call with those hands

aren't you betting the turn 100% of the time with a pair? Like with red tens. Especially since you have momentum and have no reason to play fancy against someone who might be tilting.

i think he turns up with 88-TT here a lot.

i hate your bluff, he is going to snap call with almost any pair here imo u would look much stronger if u bet turn and shove river.

i rather call than shove this.

On September 06 2008 17:12 Baal wrote: i hate your bluff, he is going to snap call with almost any pair here imo u would look much stronger if u bet turn and shove river. i rather call than shove this.

Given no history / generalizing most MSNL hu players I'd agree with this

looks bad

bet turn is a lot better option

looks really bad your not repping anything