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angryfishes   Australia. Sep 03 2008 23:33. Posts 410

i know these are pretty common situatiions, just want to hear winning nl25/50 players comments on them. as you can see i have alot of trouble playing "second best" hands deep

Submitted by : angryfishes

PokerStars Game #20109729562: Hold'em No Limit ($0.25/$0.50) - 2008/09/03 3:03:20 ET
Table 'Oileus V' 6-max Seat #1 is the button
Seat 1: Nitemaretime ($72.15 in chips)
Seat 2: 30 Handicap ($51 in chips)
Seat 4: Patty7771956 ($9.05 in chips)
Seat 5: Hero ($71.80 in chips)
Seat 6: ViCiouSRaGe ($25.25 in chips)
30 Handicap: posts small blind $0.25
Patty7771956: posts big blind $0.50

Holecards
Dealt to Hero 6d6s
Hero : raises $1 to $1.50
ViCiouSRaGe: folds
Nitemaretime: calls $1.50
30 Handicap: folds
Patty7771956: folds

Flop (Pot : $3.75)

   6h9c8h
Hero : bets $2.50
Nitemaretime: raises $68.15 to $70.65 and is all-in

hero ?! he could have 99 88 but he would show up with 1010+ alot of the time. but since we are deep is this a snap fold?



Submitted by : angryfishes

PokerStars Game #20085547078: Hold'em No Limit ($0.25/$0.50) - 2008/09/02 - 04:14:44 (ET)
Table 'Lamberta' 6-max Seat #4 is the button
Seat 1: Hero ($70.40 in chips)
Seat 2: hydrOpkr ($50 in chips)
Seat 3: 808mlee ($105.70 in chips)
Seat 4: Yo-One 1 ($52 in chips)
Seat 5: Qpers ($73.40 in chips)
Seat 6: l+l=3 ($50 in chips)
Qpers: posts small blind $0.25
l+l=3: posts big blind $0.50

Holecards
Dealt to Hero KsAs
Hero : raises $1 to $1.50
hydrOpkr: folds
808mlee: folds
Yo-One 1: folds
Qpers: raises $1.50 to $3
l+l=3: folds
Hero : raises $4 to $7
Qpers: calls $4

Flop (Pot : $14.50)

   KcQs9c
Qpers: checks
Hero : bets $4
Qpers: raises $22 to $26

in a non 3 bet pre pot this is a 100% snap fold . in this reraised preflop pot case most of me says this is still a snap fold but there seems to be a ton of one paired hands drawing to a str and flush that he might have. but since we are deep this is a snap fold right?

and i know i should have raised more pf so imagine another situation where i reraise it pf to 11.50, he calls . pot on flop is 23$ i bet 17 into it and he makes it 42. is this still a snap fold?



Submitted by : angryfishes

PokerStars Game #20108695761: Hold'em No Limit ($0.25/$0.50) - 2008/09/03 1:27:05 ET
Table 'Lipperta II' 6-max Seat #4 is the button
Seat 1: Hero ($58.60 in chips)
Seat 2: Krisko88 ($41.10 in chips)
Seat 3: k2o4 ($58.25 in chips)
Seat 4: Illmatic31 ($47.50 in chips)
Seat 5: confusion654 ($60 in chips)
Seat 6: ella0715 ($30 in chips)
confusion654: posts small blind $0.25
ella0715: posts big blind $0.50

Holecards
Dealt to Hero AcAs
Hero : calls $0.50
Krisko88: folds
k2o4: folds
Illmatic31: folds
confusion654: calls $0.25
ella0715: checks

Flop (Pot : $1.50)

   2d5s7d
confusion654: bets $1.50
ella0715: calls $1.50
Hero : raises $6.50 to $8
confusion654: raises $17.50 to $25.50
ella0715: folds

now that he 4 bets me do i always assume a set and snap fold aces?



Submitted by : angryfishes

PokerStars Game #20086531393: Hold'em No Limit ($0.10/$0.25) - 2008/09/02 - 06:07:25 (ET)
Table 'Bohmia' 6-max Seat #3 is the button
Seat 1: Pillenkind ($114.90 in chips)
Seat 3: nunosoares ($29.80 in chips)
Seat 4: JennyCema ($52.55 in chips)
Seat 5: Hero ($25 in chips)
Seat 6: disastah ($35.95 in chips)
JennyCema: posts small blind $0.10
Hero : posts big blind $0.25

Holecards
Dealt to Hero QcQd
disastah: folds
Pillenkind: folds
nunosoares: calls $0.25
JennyCema: folds
Hero : raises $1 to $1.25
nunosoares: calls $1

Flop (Pot : $2.60)

   9d8s8c
Hero : bets $2
PC37 has returned
nunosoares: raises $3 to $5
Hero : raises $5 to $10
nunosoares: calls $5

does his call mean determine hes not making a play and indeed has an 8?



Submitted by : angryfishes

PokerStars Game #20087169674: Hold'em No Limit ($0.10/$0.25) - 2008/09/02 - 07:15:48 (ET)
Table 'Pavo' 6-max Seat #4 is the button
Seat 1: kvejkr ($30.85 in chips)
Seat 2: Accccce ($25 in chips)
Seat 3: StingLT ($60.40 in chips)
Seat 4: Hero ($36.55 in chips)
Seat 5: TheWojtek84 ($2.40 in chips)
Seat 6: may64 ($55.75 in chips)
TheWojtek84: posts small blind $0.10
may64: posts big blind $0.25
Accccce: posts big blind $0.25

Holecards
Dealt to Hero QhQd
kvejkr: raises $1 to $1.25
Accccce: folds
StingLT: folds
Hero : raises $2 to $3.25
TheWojtek84: folds
may64: folds
kvejkr: raises $5.75 to $9
Hero : calls $5.75

Flop (Pot : $18.60)

   7c2c4c
kvejkr: bets $9

should i have just folded pre flop to his 3 bet?



Submitted by : angryfishes

PokerStars Game #20085645268: Hold'em No Limit ($0.10/$0.25) - 2008/09/02 - 04:26:21 (ET)
Table 'Euterpe' 6-max Seat #3 is the button
Seat 1: Hero ($25 in chips)
Seat 2: LongDukDong7 ($15.90 in chips)
Seat 3: Hjallo ($34.50 in chips)
Seat 4: talgilady ($22.65 in chips)
Seat 5: lest0w ($37.25 in chips)
Seat 6: auckies ($23.90 in chips)
talgilady: posts small blind $0.10
lest0w: posts big blind $0.25

Holecards
Dealt to Hero QsJh
auckies: folds
Hero : raises $0.75 to $1
LongDukDong7: folds
Hjallo: calls $1
talgilady: calls $0.90
lest0w: calls $0.75

Flop (Pot : $4.00)

   2c7sJs
talgilady: checks
lest0w: checks
Hero : bets $2.75
Hjallo: folds
talgilady: calls $2.75
lest0w: folds

Turn (Pot : $9.50)

   2c7sJsJd
talgilady: checks
Hero : bets $7
talgilady: raises $11.90 to $18.90 and is all-in

do you ever fold this?



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 Last edit: 04/09/2008 05:55

KwarK   United Kingdom. Sep 04 2008 00:12. Posts 1019

If you fold that set there I will cry.
AK vs that much action and a 3 bet is a fold.
AA on a board that wet vs that much action is entirely read dependent. I'd call vs an unknown because it could easily be a weaker overpair, a draw or a total bluff but if they seem pretty solid you can justify a fold.
When you call a 4 bet you need to have your plan in mind. Whether you get it in on low flops, calling for set value etc. Go with your pf plan. On a flop like that he's probably got an overpair without a club getting his money in fast. You'd still have trouble finding a call here though because it's probably AA.
That QJ will be a bluff 4/5 the time imo. He knows the chance of you having a J just dropped a lot. Sometimes he'll have the J or the boat but calling there is definitely a profitable play. Instacall.


DrawingThin   Canada. Sep 04 2008 01:04. Posts 66

AA hand is a fist pump snap fold vs confusion654. he's like the biggest nit in nl50 6max, i had him running at 8/7 and i've never seen him raise post flop without the goods.

he clearly has a set. what other hand can a super tight player complete the small blind with, leads a draw heavy board and then 3bet afterwards...


xafies   Greece. Sep 04 2008 03:30. Posts 1079

hand 1(66)
i think you are against a monster draw all the time so this a high varience play if u decide to call
hand 2(ak)
WHat?u just enduce a bluff.NOw call!
actually cant comment on this hand as it is butchered imo
hand 3(aa)
LOL?now fold ,he has 27 off
hand 4(QQ)
if u called a 4bet u have to get it in here.Are u playing queens for set value?(note that he is utg raiser so u should know what to do PF)
hand 5(qj)
villain dependant imo

i didnt see JJ hand i think it is wp
also stats info about villains would be useful

You can not lose if you do not playLast edit: 04/09/2008 04:00

KeyleK_uk   United Kingdom. Sep 04 2008 03:42. Posts 1687

hand 1 call i guess

hand 2 i'd probably fold depending on opponent

hand 3 is often a fold but a call vs some people you'll know when to call though if in doubt fold i guess.

hand 4 you can fold if you like I suppose its pretty weak though its opponent dependent i guess.

hand 5 yeah, call.

poker is soooo much easier when you flop sets 

domyouji   Zimbabwe. Sep 04 2008 04:29. Posts 435

limp aces....lol

to live the dream you gotta play the game 

angryfishes   Australia. Sep 04 2008 05:57. Posts 410

thanks for the replies guys

hand 4 was supposed to be another qq hand, i posted some1elses hand by mistake, its fixed now.
i limped aces obv coz i was utg and the table was aggresive and i was hoping for some1 to raise/squeeze

ill wait for a few more replies b4 posting some of the results.


4Kingell   United Kingdom. Sep 04 2008 06:30. Posts 1453

What I'd do:

Hand 1 - call - if he shows up with top set then make a note - most times this is a draw but I've seen idiots do this with AA.
Hand 2 - cry because you should have bet more pf and more on the flop but as played I would be tempted to call just because you have induced a big bet and he obliged but it's tough as I wouldn't want to be in that spot and am not really sure where to go from here! Despite being tempted as played I probably fold. In your 'what if' I fold.
Hand 3 - fold and spew at limping
Hand 4 - Not sure with no reads. Most times I would like a shove to his weak 4bet PF (reads?) but you have got yourself here again by not betting big enough with your 3bet. I probably fold as played.
Hand 5 - No - I am never folding this - maybe I should as he is often showing up with AJ/KJ/22/77 but for better than 3:1 on my money I would have a hard time putting this down - if you have reads on him then it may be clearer.

If you know the enemy and know yourself you need not fear the results of a hundred battles. Sun Tzu Last edit: 04/09/2008 06:32

Ramon47   . Sep 05 2008 01:14. Posts 3

66 - I would call. Villain has propably a flush or combo draw or an overpair. Would he overbet and try to push you out with bigger set? I doubt if he knows what he is doing.

AKs - Why 4bet pf if you are ready to fold post flop on a board like that? You are so deep in stacks that I would propably have called villains pf reraise and check on the flop.

AA - typical problems with limped aces, you have no idea what sb might hold. Imo smells a set here even though many players calls from sb with total crap as well, so two pairs or 7 with overcard also possible. I would fold.

QQ1 - I would not have reraised him again on the flop. My line would be check-call, check-fold depending on the size of the bets. You have only 2 outs for the hand you can be sure you are ahead. This may cost you a lot if villain continues betting on the turn and river.

QQ2 - I would have called his 3 bet and see the flop relatively cheap. Fold on the flop.

QJo - This is tricky. Imo smells like J but you may still be ahead so I would call.

 Last edit: 05/09/2008 01:15

 



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