Is this a call?

Guy justlost a big pot to short stack where he got outdrawn. Then very next hand this happens. I didn't know what to really do. I figured I wanted to be aggressor for last of my chips and folded but i have to be ahead of his range here no?

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i snap

yeah your equity, even vs a sensible range, should be around 40-50%. his range on average is gonna be more wild than sensible imo

well, mathematicly its a call but i love to do this myself, when i lose big pot or smth like that and im dealt good cards i shove just like that ;p

On September 01 2008 10:06 ck20 wrote: well, mathematicly its a call but i love to do this myself, when i lose big pot or smth like that and im dealt good cards i shove just like that ;p

do you even play tournaments?

anyway, I probably snap this regardless of history. he should be shoving any two here, no?

i dont think he shoves here any two, i fold here

@oxy
im just an rookie and newbie and villan seems just like me so im givin advice based on my little experience

this is why we have this forum, to learn and talk about game we play right?

and this is a 3$ tourney which i play alot

With 11bb I fold here...
You're most likely ahead of him often, and you might win this hand say maybe...60% of the time...
I'm not calling on that...

with 11bb you're able to get blinds by pushing and stealing, I don't think you need to call hands like these...

On September 01 2008 14:41 Hjorturkall wrote: With 11bb I fold here... You're most likely ahead of him often, and you might win this hand say maybe...60% of the time... I'm not calling on that... with 11bb you're able to get blinds by pushing and stealing, I don't think you need to call hands like these...

excuse me? you're not taking 60% 'cause you have better spots?

how is he not pushing at least 80% of his range here? if we're folding A5s he HAS to be pushing 100% here. even if we're 50/50 against his range (almost impossible) we still almost have to take it given the overlay of sb/antes.

ck, your post implies that villain has the option of raise/folding or something. of course you can raise/call but the play in his spot the majority of the time will be to shove

what the fuck

can we get tournament forum bans

jesus christ im so tilted by everything in this thread

mehhh i don't mind the fold so much in a low BI tournament when ur kinda deep. I tihnk the bad players dont shove light enough but its close and marginal either way.

Fold, applying the GAP CONCEPT.

i dont mind the fold in a low bi tourney cause some players only shove a10+ even on the button here. the more competent the player is the easier of a call it becomes, but against some players, and actually a decent amount of players in $3 tourneys, you have 3 outs every single time here. if the other guy is good its a very easy call but most people don't push all that light..

so if I have the impression this guy is on the tighter side I fold. if hes a complete random I call but im not overjoyed about it.

Who directly contradicts myth when he talks about tournaments, anyway? wtf is up with that?

On September 02 2008 04:57 vltava wrote: Who directly contradicts myth and nutshot when they talk about tournaments, anyway? wtf is up with that?

I do!

I'd probably fold here

On September 01 2008 21:04 BigRed0000 wrote: mehhh i don't mind the fold so much in a low BI tournament when ur kinda deep. I tihnk the bad players dont shove light enough but its close and marginal either way.

agree with the second sentence.. but kinda deep != 11bb imo

that being said i still snap

for anyone thinking he doesn't shove light


come on dudes are you for real? we're gonna run into somebody who is shoving 62o just as often as we're gonna run into somebody folding KQs imo