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spets1   Australia. Aug 29 2008 01:56. Posts 2179

I really hate these spots and dont know what to do. should i lead out?
Submitted by : spets1

Hand #55256193-58032 at Arley (No Limit Hold'em)
Started at 29/Aug/08 03:53:15
thefullymonty is at seat 0 with $102.45
Hero is at seat 1 with $100.70
EasyGo70 is at seat 2 with $44.40
jamescass is at seat 3 with $19.90
wild95 is at seat 4 with $94.70
FoxxFire2 is at seat 5 with $50
The button is at seat 3
wild95 posts the small blind of $.25
FoxxFire2 posts the big blind of $.50

Holecards
thefullymonty: -- --
Hero : KhQh
EasyGo70: -- --
jamescass : -- --
wild95: -- --
FoxxFire2: -- --

thefullymonty folds
Hero raises to $1.50
EasyGo70 re-raises to $2.50
jamescass folds
wild95 folds
FoxxFire2 folds
Hero calls

Flop (Pot : $2.25)

   TsTcJh
Hero checks
EasyGo70 bets $5.75
Hero raises to $11.50
EasyGo70 calls

Turn (Pot : $25.25)

   TsTcJh5h
Hero checks
EasyGo70 checks

River (Pot : $25.25)

   TsTcJh5h3s
Hero checks
EasyGo70 bets $28.75
Hero

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goodguysm   United States. Aug 29 2008 02:05. Posts 1051

obviously player dependent,
but other than that
pretty standard i think, just fold.


k4ir0s   Canada. Aug 29 2008 03:16. Posts 3483

nvm

I dont know what a dt drop is. Is it a wrestling move? -OlyLast edit: 29/08/2008 05:55

Oly   United Kingdom. Aug 29 2008 04:01. Posts 3585

bleh, you tied yourself up in a silly spot in a few ways here. The flop mincr is horrific since you are blown off your draw if he shoves and he isn't folding ever. When he thankfully doesn't push, this turn is an easy shove once you have taken the lead.

I would c/c the flop and then crai this particular turn.

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TianYuan    Korea (South). Aug 29 2008 04:02. Posts 6817

Guys he min3bets us PF -.-
Either just call flop (if you think his min/cr means a super strong hand, ie AA, KK, QQ) or make a REAL c/r, a big one to fold out AQ, AK etc.

If I'm going to c/r it I'm NOT min/cring it or whatever you did, that's just asking to get called by AK and losing to A hi at showdown.

Oly, I think we are committed to this if he shoves, he isn't even fullstacked to start the hand.

Btw something to think of, when you c/r a draw like this, you don't want it to look like he has any fold equity if he shoves. It's sort of like Taqtix' signature..

  yo, imma make this play! see, it looks like i have nothing and i have nothing and opponent is some halfie fish. is it good?



Because your draw doesn't really dominate any other draws (except 89, unlikely hand) and if he shoves with A7o or 44 you aren't exactly happy about it. So basically with a draw like this you want to make the last "real" bet and leave as little room as possible for him to re-ship something silly that still beats you.

Hm.. Off-suite socks..Last edit: 29/08/2008 04:06

Twisted    Netherlands. Aug 29 2008 04:07. Posts 10422


  On August 29 2008 03:02 TianYuan wrote:
Guys he min3bets us PF -.-
Either just call flop (if you think his min/cr means a super strong hand, ie AA, KK, QQ) or make a REAL c/r, a big one to fold out AQ, AK etc.

If I'm going to c/r it I'm NOT min/cring it or whatever you did, that's just asking to get called by AK and losing to A hi at showdown.



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I like calling flop and frontbetting the turn. This way we keep the pot small on the flop and we can easily semi-bluff the turn with huge equity. A frontbet on the turn certainly folds out his air-type hands and we have the betting lead for when we hit on the river which is nice to have OOP.

 Last edit: 29/08/2008 04:30

raiseinthedark   Malaysia. Aug 29 2008 15:43. Posts 30

Min3bet pf certainly means AK/AQ.I like cr flop but i think you made a wicked check on the turn and same on river it s why he pot..It s the only way for him to win the pot.Maybe see you on 99/88/77 try to figure out a AT or AJ.
You have no choice to fold now.
If i were you i made a strong the turn you ve got double draw with fold equity and you keep the lead.

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msna   Canada. Aug 29 2008 18:43. Posts 999

fold flop! you are calling OH NO! RAISSING 11 bucks in a pot that you have only 1 bucks and meanwhile you might be drawing dead!

Dont panic I shove alot! 

SPEWTARD   Peru. Aug 29 2008 19:28. Posts 4307

fold flop 100%

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