40k guarenteed hand

Was this shove appropriate? He was kind of a tard.. I put him squarely on KK/AA but thought it might of been just some negativity in my thought processes

44 or so players remaining in the 40k. Do you play it safe here or get it in? Chipleader was probably around 1.5m chips. My stack was maybe average?
Submitted by : terrybunny19240

PokerStars Game #19975706274: Tournament #103653309, $3.00+$0.30 Hold'em No Limit - Level XXIV (8000/16000) - 2008/08/28 - 20:35:46 (ET)
Table '103653309 116' 9-max Seat #7 is the button
Seat 1: tamar99 (401737 in chips)
Seat 2: 79poker (460402 in chips)
Seat 3: ghost1008 (662464 in chips)
Seat 4: Luke2973 (389902 in chips)
Seat 5: PETHI (492724 in chips)
Seat 6: night2o1 (580062 in chips)
Seat 7: dipalmo (380531 in chips)
Seat 8: ronaldgrauer (153999 in chips)
Seat 9: chengsuzu (831408 in chips)
tamar99: posts the ante 1600
79poker: posts the ante 1600
ghost1008: posts the ante 1600
Luke2973: posts the ante 1600
PETHI: posts the ante 1600
night2o1 : posts the ante 1600
dipalmo: posts the ante 1600
ronaldgrauer: posts the ante 1600
chengsuzu: posts the ante 1600
ronaldgrauer: posts small blind 8000
chengsuzu: posts big blind 16000

Holecards
Dealt to night2o1
tamar99: folds
79poker: raises 16000 to 32000
ghost1008: calls 32000
Luke2973: folds
PETHI: folds
night2o1 : calls 32000
dipalmo: folds
ronaldgrauer: folds
chengsuzu: raises 118000 to 150000
79poker: folds
ghost1008: folds
night2o1 : raises 428462 to 578462 and is all-in
chengsuzu: calls 428462

i dont get why you flatted the first raise, especially with a caller and about 90k in the pot. as played you should be thrilled someone squeezed and you can get this in pre flop.

Well, the idea of the flat was to put it in on a flop on undercards since the pot was multiway. I suppose this is a bad play? Reasoning is that if if they hit a pair they are going to call(which they most likely would). I think I have a chance to get weaker hands that wouldn't otherwise go all-in PF that way. (ace rag, etc)

Was sort of being cautious with it, since I was covered by cheng/nearly covered by the other guy and was hoping not to get knocked out.

Bad way to think of it?

yes

hopefully one of the good donkament players will confirm this, but you have a monster, the pot is pretty big, you have like 40bbs, so you should get it in.

ya i prolly wouldn't have flatcalled either. But yea lucky for you someone squeezed. But if your range for him was only AA/KK lol i guess the push was bad?

Push preflop, there is enough money in the pot already, the worst play after folding is to flat here with 2 people in. Don't you ever try to "trap" with big pairs that late in a tourney except in some very specific spots.

reraise preflop
as played push is fine

Ok, thanks everyone

110k to go -> call shove

Any insight on why this is a better play? Thanks^^

On August 30 2008 13:23 Night2o1 wrote: Any insight on why this is a better play? Thanks^^

Why it's better to push instead of call? 1) There's a ton of money in already, ur gettin mad value as it is. 2) You don't want worse hands to call and catch up, good luck playin a 89T suited flop 3+ ways w/ QQo. 3) It's a tournament, meaning you must get very lucky to win. Winning a single pair over pair situation is easy, winning 5+ in a row, not so much (obviously you'll also have to survive 50/50 and 60/40 situations or worse, which makes the odds of winning that much more minuscule). Getting chips w/o showdown is insanely +EV in a tournament. 4) This is a micro buy-in tourney. Half the people in this are brain dead, no sense in trying to "trap" them with fancy plays. Most of the time they will trap themselves because they suck at poker.

Just my thoughts.

Thanks, good points

very nicely put maiden

In that late stage and a shove from the guy with 800k + i would fold QQ no matter what.The guy who raised you first may decide to call the all in too and your hand will not be that good.