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Pokemyface   Australia. Aug 28 2008 12:58. Posts 762

Submitted by : Pokemyface

POKERSTARS GAME #19965940095: HOLD'EM NO LIMIT ($3/$6) - 2008/08/28 - 13:43:06 (ET)
Table 'Mira' 9-max Seat #8 is the button
Seat 1: Marccus85 ($814 in chips)
Seat 2: Robisecond ($111 in chips)
Seat 3: Bora999 ($114 in chips)
Seat 4: slammedfire ($591 in chips)
Seat 5: Pokemyface85 ($722 in chips)
Seat 6: gl79 ($609.15 in chips)
Seat 7: jornxx ($636 in chips)
Seat 8: ^^^^^V4^^^^^ ($1005.50 in chips)
Seat 9: fripotin ($501.75 in chips)
fripotin: posts small blind $3
Marccus85: posts big blind $6

Holecards
Dealt to Pokemyface85 KcQs
Robisecond: folds
Bora999: folds
slammedfire: folds
Pokemyface85 : raises $18 to $24
gl79: folds
jornxx: calls $24
^^^^^V4^^^^^: folds
fripotin: folds
Marccus85: folds

Flop (Pot : $57.00)

   Qc6sJh
Pokemyface85 : bets $45
jornxx: calls $45

Turn (Pot : $147.00)

   Qc6sJh8s
Pokemyface85 : bets $100
jornxx: calls $100

River (Pot : $347.00)

   Qc6sJh8s4s
Pokemyface85 : checks
jornxx: bets $467 and is all-in
Pokemyface85 : folds
Uncalled bet ($467) returned to jornxx
jornxx collected $344 from pot

Summary
Total pot $347 | Rake $3
Board  Qc6sJh8s4s
Seat 1: Marccus85 (big blind) folded before Flop
Seat 2: Robisecond folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 3: Bora999 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 4: slammedfire folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 5: Pokemyface85 folded on the River
Seat 6: gl79 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 7: jornxx collected ($344)
Seat 8: ^^^^^V4^^^^^ (button) folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 9: fripotin (small blind) folded before Flop



villain is quite a horrible reg, he's called a squeeze oop /w AJo to stack off on a jack high board, in another hand he's called when i squeezed a UTG raiser and a caller /w TT. I have him running @ (21/16/2.5) over 2k hands.

ok so flop and turn look preety standard, i check on the river to induce a bluff from missed draws, but i am completely thrown off by the overbet shove, i originally put him on a set, but i had a chat with wobbly and it makes sense that a set would most likely raise the turn. After looking at the hand it looks like he either has KTs or AJs.

All in all, question is can i call here?

I would appreciate feedback on what you guys/yugless think.

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Live, and let live.Last edit: 28/08/2008 13:00

taqtiX   Iceland. Aug 28 2008 14:05. Posts 338

do you mean AsJs when you say AJs? i can't imagine a full ring player turns Jx into a bluff here w/o more information. Your hand is pretty faceup as a 1p hand and if his ranged is unbalanced; he always bluff shoves and vb less w/ a real hand it's obv a pretty clear call.

But with the given info i think it's an easy fold - you beat 2x combos of KTs and perhaps 3x combos of ATs.

Im not much for cards but I think these .45s beat a full house 

NMcNasty    United States. Aug 28 2008 15:43. Posts 2041

annoying spot vs a lagtard but u still gotta fold

this type of player wont bluff with top/mid pair type hands very often and there's only a few combos of missed draws


n0rthf4ce    United States. Aug 28 2008 17:06. Posts 8119

its like mcnasty said, no draw really plays like this, they more often than not raise the flop. its annoying that u have the Qs which greatly reduces the chance of him having a flush, but he could play 910 like this im guessing or something like Jxss. It's really annoying but i think he checks behind a decent amount of the time with combodraws enough to warrant a fold. i bet river for value also fwiw.

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[vital]Myth    United States. Aug 28 2008 18:13. Posts 12159

easy call you silly monkeys people are always fishing just calling iwth KT or 9T here

Eh, I can go a few more orbits in life, before taxes blind me out - PoorUser 

Fraser   Canada. Aug 28 2008 18:30. Posts 4605

oh! well if 9T is in his range then its definitely a call.


rossi094   United States. Aug 28 2008 18:32. Posts 66


  On August 28 2008 17:13 [vital]Myth wrote:
easy call you silly monkeys people are always fishing just calling iwth KT or 9T here



u misread or something. i like the line and the fold seems good


[vital]Myth    United States. Aug 28 2008 18:39. Posts 12159

O SHIT HOT DAMN

good thing im posting on myths id so you can't know that i'm an idiot!

LOL

Eh, I can go a few more orbits in life, before taxes blind me out - PoorUser 

Pacifist   Israel. Aug 28 2008 20:36. Posts 1824

Nice try Myth we know it's you.

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Pokemyface   Australia. Aug 29 2008 04:28. Posts 762


  On August 28 2008 13:05 taqtiX wrote:
do you mean AsJs when you say AJs? i can't imagine a full ring player turns Jx into a bluff here w/o more information. Your hand is pretty faceup as a 1p hand and if his ranged is unbalanced; he always bluff shoves and vb less w/ a real hand it's obv a pretty clear call.

But with the given info i think it's an easy fold - you beat 2x combos of KTs and perhaps 3x combos of ATs.


yeh i mean AsJs
i don't get this part though
"if his ranged is unbalanced; he always bluff shoves and vb less w/ a real hand it's obv a pretty clear call"

Live, and let live. 

Pokemyface   Australia. Aug 29 2008 04:32. Posts 762


  On August 28 2008 16:06 n0rthf4ce wrote:
its like mcnasty said, no draw really plays like this, they more often than not raise the flop. its annoying that u have the Qs which greatly reduces the chance of him having a flush, but he could play 910 like this im guessing or something like Jxss. It's really annoying but i think he checks behind a decent amount of the time with combodraws enough to warrant a fold. i bet river for value also fwiw.


mmm, i dont see that much value in betting on the river though, cause he may very well have AQo, and probably won't call with anything that i beat, while folding draws that have missed.

Live, and let live. 

TimDawg    United States. Aug 29 2008 17:38. Posts 10197


  On August 28 2008 19:36 Pacifist wrote:
Nice try Myth we know it's you.

online bob is actually a pretty smart person, not at all like the creepy fucker that sits in the sofa telling me he does nasty shit to me when im asleep - pinball 

HeRoS)eNGagE   Canada. Aug 29 2008 20:37. Posts 10896


  On August 28 2008 19:36 Pacifist wrote:
Nice try Myth we know it's you.


Babs   Australia. Aug 30 2008 23:54. Posts 1178

looks like a fold

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Twisted    Netherlands. Sep 02 2008 04:35. Posts 10422

Anyone gonna tell me why we're not valuebetting this river?

Bet/fold river would be standard for me. Like 220 river. A bet he calls with AJ or QT or w/e.


Pokemyface   Australia. Sep 03 2008 05:21. Posts 762


  On September 02 2008 03:35 Twisted wrote:
Anyone gonna tell me why we're not valuebetting this river?

Bet/fold river would be standard for me. Like 220 river. A bet he calls with AJ or QT or w/e.


i think thats being a little bit too optimistic, and most players aren't going to flat an MP raise /w QT, and AJ would normally fold to a river bet. This may however be a standard value bet spot for 6max *shrugs*

Live, and let live.Last edit: 03/09/2008 05:22

DustySwedeDude   Sweden. Sep 04 2008 06:25. Posts 8623

I'd valuebet too, one of those "wtf I has toppiest pair" spots.


Fayth    Canada. Sep 06 2008 01:56. Posts 10085

nobody bets more on turn?

Im not sure what to do tomorrow when I see her, should I shake her hand?? -Floofy 

Twisted    Netherlands. Sep 06 2008 05:19. Posts 10422

Ya 120 turn shove river would be standard 8D


 



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