AQoff made pair on river vs shove

Vilian is kinda weird 20/7/1 , I try to get him off some small pair on the turn and decide to bet river for value, his shoves feels ridic strong but makes little sense.
Submitted by : EvilSky

POKERSTARS GAME #18761584769: HOLD'EM NO LIMIT ($1/$2) - 2008/07/12 - 08:36:38 (ET)
Table 'Lampetia V' 9-max Seat #8 is the button
Seat 1: pokerelmo ($200 in chips)
Seat 2: scorpionfish ($214.25 in chips)
Seat 3: Luciferian ($43.50 in chips)
Seat 6: I_h8_p0ker ($318 in chips)
Seat 7: kalimpka ($36.55 in chips)
Seat 8: I kill U 84 ($95.65 in chips)
Seat 9: Hero ($243.20 in chips)
Hero : posts small blind $1
pokerelmo: posts big blind $2
niinepuu1: sits out

Holecards
Dealt to Hero
scorpionfish: calls $2
Luciferian: folds
I_h8_p0ker: folds
kalimpka: folds
I kill U 84: folds
Hero : raises $8 to $10
pokerelmo: folds
scorpionfish: calls $8

Flop (Pot : $22.00)

   
Hero : bets $12
scorpionfish: calls $12

Turn (Pot : $46.00)

   
unkorreliert leaves the table
Hero : bets $30
fo0k joins the table at seat #4
scorpionfish: calls $30

River (Pot : $106.00)

   
Hero : bets $72
scorpionfish: raises $90.25 to $162.25 and is all-in
Hero : calls $90.25

im not sure what you think you're ever beating here

I think river would be better to just bet like 1/2 pot and fold to shove

On July 12 2008 15:35 Yugless wrote: im not sure what you think you're ever beating here

Yeah Im not sure either O_o

doubt he flats turn to bluffshove river and thats what he would have to do to make your call good

i don't see why you're cbetting so small on the flop and betting this turn either

river's a pretty easy fold though

cbetting flop so small is really good as long as you're gonna halfpot-halfpot-halfpot triple barrel

that's by far the best line in almost all fullring games because it gets sooooooo many call-folds and call-call-folds

but when i hit the A on the river i'd rather bet like 1/4 pot and get called almost 100% than bet 1/2 pot and get a fold like 75%

no matter what i bet on the river, if i get raised i snapfold for sure

On July 12 2008 17:09 [vital]Myth wrote: cbetting flop so small is really good as long as you're gonna halfpot-halfpot-halfpot triple barrel that's by far the best line in almost all fullring games because it gets sooooooo many call-folds and call-call-folds but when i hit the A on the river i'd rather bet like 1/4 pot and get called almost 100% than bet 1/2 pot and get a fold like 75% no matter what i bet on the river, if i get raised i snapfold for sure

agreed, I like smaller river bet on Ace river // 72 is cool on a Q river though

the guy limp called, but he's obviously one of those fish who never raise pre very often

hand looks alot like AJ or quads / jacks full from his river play. i would still call river as played though, dont ask me why but i just do its a reaction thing. if u timebanked it i would fold though

I would bet more on the flop, 80% of the pot or so, and if called check fold the turn. How bad is that?

I checked how this hand played out, opponent had AA. Glad I folded the turn! lol

In 6max I'd really hate the 2nd barrel, but maybe fullring nits love folding to them.

On July 18 2008 06:50 curtinsea wrote: I checked how this hand played out, opponent had AA. Glad I folded the turn! lol

result oriented = not good

I have yet to see 1/2 FR players capable of using this line as a bluff, river is an insta muck to his raise.

Yeah well like I said I thought he prolly has a med/low pair and would fold to a double barrel, then I hit the A and didnt think as long as I should have and got pwnd

river a very easy bet/fold to any raise.

On July 12 2008 17:09 [vital]Myth wrote: cbetting flop so small is really good as long as you're gonna halfpot-halfpot-halfpot triple barrel that's by far the best line in almost all fullring games because it gets sooooooo many call-folds and call-call-folds but when i hit the A on the river i'd rather bet like 1/4 pot and get called almost 100% than bet 1/2 pot and get a fold like 75% no matter what i bet on the river, if i get raised i snapfold for sure

lol i use this line alot too and when you wrote this i went to check a hand where i used it and now discovered this is the myth line from a response

http://www.liquidpoker.net/mytlnet/myhand.php?view=item&id=484726

I really hate your bet sizing in this hand. Bet the flop like you mean it and you will have a lot more fold equity against this guy. I actually have this guy running 17/5 with very a little aggression over a decent sample so I don't think you beat ANYTHING on the river.