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Graisseux   Canada. Jun 01 2008 17:01. Posts 474

I just got this e-mail from DuplicatePoker, wth it talks about eliminating bad beats by using a definite card pool. Am I just ignorant or is this really crazy ?


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Our platform eliminates bad beats and pits the most skilled Hold Em players against each other.

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kaisr   Canada. Jun 01 2008 17:48. Posts 1058

All poker programs measure the chips you accumulate against players using exact same cards.


Logiabs~   Colombia. Jun 01 2008 17:53. Posts 9133

LOL FUNNY


ggplz   Sweden. Jun 01 2008 17:57. Posts 16784

wtf
so u can only get dealt like QQ+ or something ?

if poker is dangerous to them i would rank sports betting as a Kodiak grizzly bear who smells blood after you just threw a javelin into his cub - RaiNKhAN 

GsOne   Poland. Jun 01 2008 18:17. Posts 732

It apparently works similira to bridge, like the same deal gets dealt on two tables, and after the deal your outcome is compared to the other table, say you ran with KK into AA and lost you buy-in, but same thing happened on the other table, so the outcome of the hand is - you didn't lose a penny.

It changes the game completely, and I'm unsure which of teh players you're betting against? I'd guess - against the dude with your cards on the other table?

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GsOne   Poland. Jun 01 2008 18:25. Posts 732

Oh, and if it's the way it seems to be, the game may grow a huge community, again similar to how duplicate bridge kicked out rubber bridge.

And, similar to how duplicate bridge works, the luck factor is still huge, for example you can play your hand perfectly, but there's some donk sitting on the other table just giving his chips away, so the guy on your position just beats you every single hand.

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Shad   United Kingdom. Jun 02 2008 10:24. Posts 866

Honestly sounds horrible..

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ggplz   Sweden. Jun 02 2008 11:14. Posts 16784


  On June 02 2008 09:24 Shad wrote:
Honestly sounds horrible..

if poker is dangerous to them i would rank sports betting as a Kodiak grizzly bear who smells blood after you just threw a javelin into his cub - RaiNKhAN 

Loco   Canada. Jun 02 2008 11:21. Posts 21022

what the fuck is this???

fuck I should just sell some of my Pokemon cards, if no one stakes that is what I will have to do - lostaccount 

JoeDeertay   United States. Jun 02 2008 12:04. Posts 1730

GsOne got it right.

They say it eliminates luck because you are competing against someone who id playing the same exact hands as you, so they think whoever wins more is the better player and therefore wins.

For example, say you register for a 4 player game. you play HU against one of them and the other 2 play HU on the other table. each table gets dealt the exact same hands and plays hand-for-hand, for maybe like 8 hands or so. Then after those 8 hands, the player with the most chips in the pair who got matching cards wins and takes that losers buy in. So really there are 2 winners in each 4 player game, and you are really only competing against 1 other player even though you are actually playing against someone else.

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rgfdxm   United States. Jun 02 2008 12:25. Posts 1514

This is a tremendously stupid idea because poker is played every man for himself. In a duplicate bridge match you have two teams competing against each other and thereby all luck is removed by dealing the two tables identical cards. It only works because everyone who's not on your team is on a team with each other.

Tournament duplicate bridge, as GsOne noted, reintroduces large quantities of luck since there are many many teams and some of your opponents can get lucky by playing against random other noobs who suck. Trying to apply the duplicate system to poker suffers from this problem x1000, which makes the whole thing completely impractical.


Yugless    United States. Jun 02 2008 12:49. Posts 7174

hahaha why didn't i think of this

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kemo   Denmark. Jun 02 2008 14:06. Posts 573

So me and my friend could be registering at the same time, hoping to get in same game, and if were dealt same cards, we just play it out, while if were on the other hand are against eachother, will be able to totally exploit our opponents?


vltava   United States. Jun 02 2008 14:23. Posts 1742

Although it is incorrect that it removes the luck factor, just changes the source of your luck. There is a great deal of luck in duplicate bridge, for example a good player may evaluate two ways of playing a difficult contract, and find that one play has about a 35% chance of success, and another has a 25% chance of success, and that tiny ten percent edge may be what separates him from a decent player playing the same contract. Meanwhile, neither play works, and a clueless idiot butchers the hand on another table but gets insanely lucky and makes the contract, getting a top board, while another timid pair of bidders didn't bid a game in the first place, and they get second board, easily making their partscore.

More to the point: Who wants to remove the luck from the game? The winning player? You want to chase away your customers?

The losing player? He plays to gamble, not to win in the long run. Making it like duplicate bridge takes out everything that he is playing for.

Horrible idea, utter failure.

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SPEWTARD   Peru. Jun 02 2008 22:45. Posts 4307

lol i gotta admit i tried the site
it sucks
only has mtt and sngs and no traffic
epic fail imo

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Floofy   Canada. Jun 03 2008 00:13. Posts 8708

i think its a nice concept that is poorly implemented....

it doesnt really remove luck
say you fold your hand (good fold) but your opponement chase and he hits, there u just lost money.... luck aint removed

it would be really complex to implement a no luck poker that truly works, probably impossible

like a poker where rekrul would beat me 100% of the time

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Loco   Canada. Jun 03 2008 00:32. Posts 21022

pretty sure that already exists floofy

fuck I should just sell some of my Pokemon cards, if no one stakes that is what I will have to do - lostaccount 

Baalim   Mexico. Jun 03 2008 01:40. Posts 34312

and its a game called life

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Muhweli   Finland. Jun 03 2008 03:34. Posts 10663

Question. If money would always be divided over EV in showdown situations - where would the luck be in? That's far from impossible to do. I guess getting coolered is also luck, but eliminating that would make the game stupid. :D

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Meat   . Oct 06 2008 12:17. Posts 3386

Just received an email that this company went broke.


 
Dear Affiliate,

Duplicate Poker is sadly bidding farewell to its players and affiliates. Caught in the middle of the global financial situation the company is not able to continue to provide service.

Regretfully as of the today, October 5, 2008 we are closing our service. We thank our affiliates and players for being with us. Hopefully at later time and in a better economic climate Duplicate Poker will reappear.

The company is appointing a US-Trustee who will handle any liabilities



 
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