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[NL200] KJ in MP w/ UTG raiser

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MadeInPolanD   Poland. May 17 2008 05:43. Posts 1383

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$200.00 NL Texas Hold'em - Saturday, May 17, 11:18:42 2008
Table Suva0 (Real Money)
Seat 2 is the button
Seat 1: sonjalady ( $171.70 )
Seat 2: HarryBierdop ( $312.10 )
Seat 3: L4IZeR_WeeD ( $198.00 )
Seat 4: badboyhl ( $284.15 )
Seat 5: Lemurian ( $237.40 )
Seat 6: Hero ( $319.90 )
L4IZeR_WeeD posts the small blind [$1.00].
badboyhl posts the big blind [$2.00].
Dealt to Hero KcJs

Holecards
Lemurian raises [$7.00]
Hero calls [$7.00]
sonjalady folds
HarryBierdop folds
L4IZeR_WeeD folds
badboyhl folds

Flop (Pot : $14.00)

   5hJc2s
Lemurian bets [$14.00]
Hero calls [$14.00]

Turn (Pot : $42.00)

   5hJc2s3c
Lemurian bets [$35.00]
Hero ?



is folding turn here too weak? there are no draws, it looks like i lose or we're splitting and i dont think if he's 2 barreling in those spots he's doing it often enough

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Make it rain$$$Last edit: 17/05/2008 05:43

Kapol   Poland. May 17 2008 05:48. Posts 4696

Why the fuck are you calling this pre-flop? Lemurian is one of the best players at these stakes at Everest. Calling his UTG raise with KJo is such a retarded play.
As played, idk really. Folding looks very weak, but it seems like he has you beat. You shouldn't have been in this spot in the first place.

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ShaunR   United States. May 17 2008 05:50. Posts 604

Yep, you hit your card and are still in a bad spot and beat by a ton of hands by an UTG raiser. Fold and remind yourself to fold preflop in the future


ToT)MidiaN(    United Kingdom. May 17 2008 06:21. Posts 5070

Preflop is terrible really, I mean you get one of the best boards possible for your hand and you're still not sure what to do, what were you hoping for? KJJ flop or something? His range is far too tight under the gun, you dominate perhaps 2 hands he raises UTG which are QJs and JTs and many many hands has you dominated. Classic reverse implied odds situation. Another significant problem with calling here is that there's a decent possibility of a squeeze behind considering there are still 4 players to act, all with larger stacks and are thus probably regulars who are capable of doing things like that. It's really just a massive spew preflop. It may not seem like much cause it's only $7 and you have position and a reasonable hand but when you think of his range preflop and what you can possibly do postflop you'll see that it's gonna get you screwed up the shitter in the long run. Even against my UTG range I think this is a losing play preflop and I raise like 21% of hands UTG ffs.

Postflop what can I say, his double barrelling range is all hands that have you beat and possibly (not always) hands like AK AQ ATs that picked up a gutshot and still have an over or overs and figure to fold you off a ton of hands like 66-TT (a significant portion of your range). This hand is towards the top end of your range here (though it shouldn't even be in your range at all like I already said) so I think folding is weak also, I'd probably call again and fold to a river bet thinking that a player with such tight and passive type stats are incapable of firing the 3rd when your hand is clearly defined as a jack unless they are losing or spewy around or something then I might call. You got yourself into a tough spot where you stand to lose a large pot just because of a $7 call preflop.

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The72o   Zimbabwe. May 17 2008 08:21. Posts 6112


  On May 17 2008 04:48 Kapol wrote:
Why the fuck are you calling this pre-flop? Lemurian is one of the best players at these stakes at Everest. Calling his UTG raise with KJo is such a retarded play.
As played, idk really. Folding looks very weak, but it seems like he has you beat. You shouldn't have been in this spot in the first place.

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lebowski   Greece. May 17 2008 08:42. Posts 9205

21% from utg is something I will never grasp

new shit has come to light... a-and... shit! man... 

ToT)MidiaN(    United Kingdom. May 17 2008 08:55. Posts 5070



standard ("thinly" veiled brag!!!!)

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TalentedTom    Canada. May 17 2008 11:03. Posts 20070

Any Ax picked up a wheel draw, definatley not bad to throw out a 2nd barrel

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The72o   Zimbabwe. May 17 2008 11:38. Posts 6112


  On May 17 2008 07:55 ToT)MidiaN( wrote:


standard ("thinly" veiled brag!!!!)


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