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eelnosaj   Canada. May 15 2008 12:33. Posts 96

I would have shoved if that ace didn't come, but i'm not sure if I should have anyway. Thoughts?

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POKERSTARS GAME #17437517826: HOLD'EM NO LIMIT ($0.05/$0.10) - 2008/05/14 - 23:05:40 (ET)
Table 'Tantalus' 9-max Seat #4 is the button
Seat 2: lanati ($2 in chips)
Seat 3: Hero ($10.35 in chips)
Seat 4: sexystar1323 ($7.60 in chips)
Seat 5: Dusko Pull ($10.05 in chips)
Seat 6: DreamHoly ($9.85 in chips)
Seat 7: jaxxxfrost ($7.70 in chips)
Seat 8: eachwayman ($9.55 in chips)
Seat 9: cody721 ($6 in chips)
Dusko Pull: posts small blind $0.05
DreamHoly: posts big blind $0.10
soneca1990: sits out

Holecards
Dealt to Hero QhQc
jaxxxfrost: calls $0.10
eachwayman: raises $0.30 to $0.40
cody721: folds
lanati: folds
Hero : raises $0.80 to $1.20
sexystar1323: folds
Dusko Pull: folds
DreamHoly: folds
jaxxxfrost: folds
eachwayman: calls $0.80

Flop (Pot : $2.65)

   3dJs7c
eachwayman: checks
Hero : bets $1.30
eachwayman: calls $1.30

Turn (Pot : $5.25)

   3dJs7c8d
eachwayman: bets $0.50
Hero : raises $3 to $3.50
eachwayman: calls $3

River (Pot : $12.25)

   3dJs7c8dAs
eachwayman: bets $0.60
Hero : calls $0.60

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 Last edit: 15/05/2008 12:35

eelnosaj   Canada. May 15 2008 12:35. Posts 96

He had a pair of 10s.


collegesucks   United States. May 15 2008 12:44. Posts 5780

what the heck

bet flop properly shove TURN


Fox   . May 15 2008 12:49. Posts 3110

i don't know if this villian will call on that river if you shove so why do it.

just raise bigger on turn.


Shabbzoy   United Kingdom. May 15 2008 13:32. Posts 841

if he had a pair of tens why are you concerned about missing value when you got way more than he should have given you
the fact that he called the flop and turn probably means he decided you have exactly AK so what do you expect to gain by shoving on what should be a scarecard for you? expecting a call from KJ or something?......

also what did you think HE had when he called your 1/2 pot on flop?

theres never a reason to shove here unless you think the guy is an absolute spewtard and this isnt mentioned in your post


Fox   . May 15 2008 13:56. Posts 3110

I think calling the flop is fine with 1010. The rest of eachwayman's play is a bit "eh"


eelnosaj   Canada. May 15 2008 14:38. Posts 96

yeah i was trying to do an exploit play on flop by making him think i was just trying to steal it, if he called i figured he either had a jack or something i would have beat anyway and then extract more value on the turn and river. I would have shoved river but i wasn't sure as soon as he made his funky bets, I repopped him anyway, but was unsure on the river w/ that ace dropping, thinking about it now i think i will shov river next time cause he has to respect me for the ace given how the hand played out, so why would he make that bet if he wasn't afraid of it?

i duno my logic here is that i'm just unsure about the standard cont bet sometimes here when u dont have the nuts, cause if he does call i find myself in a strange situation unsure of whether he hit a set or not, so if he did have nothing i would have gotten the fold at a cheaper price and if he did raise then theres a good warning signal for me. on the other hand if he just calls i feel i know for sure that he has a hand he thinks is better but unsure about, so i can extract some good value in that case.

 Last edit: 15/05/2008 14:43

ToT)MidiaN(    United Kingdom. May 15 2008 14:45. Posts 5070

more pre more flop shove turn for sure, you missed a lot of value vs a clear calling station who WAS gonna take his hand to the felt if you had put enough money in

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shaw67193   United States. May 15 2008 19:23. Posts 465

1.6 PF, pot flop, shove turn.

YO MAN YOU GOTTA LEARN THE HUSTLE MAN I KNOW HOW YOU FEEL AND IM LIKE YO I GOTTA STAY MOTIVATED CAUSE THESE COWARDS NEED TO GET STOMPED BOTTOM LINE -nolan 

ggplz   Sweden. May 15 2008 19:36. Posts 16784

lol
get more in on every street

if poker is dangerous to them i would rank sports betting as a Kodiak grizzly bear who smells blood after you just threw a javelin into his cub - RaiNKhAN 

gymnast   Mexico. May 16 2008 01:33. Posts 704

you have to bet harder so you don't give cheap cards to donks with Ax hands, betting low can get you into trouble.

Club NL10 ballers 

JoeDeertay   United States. May 16 2008 12:17. Posts 1730

The preflop bet is fine IMO but you have to bet more on the flop and then just get it in on the turn, because as Midian said, you missed a lot of value from an obviously terrible player. And yes he can have a set or as played he could probably have T9 too, but he could also have AJ,KJ and the possibility of AJ alone makes it an easy valuetown on the turn if you had bet properly on the flop.

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Twisted    Netherlands. May 16 2008 14:01. Posts 10422

Preflop is fine but bet 2.35 or something on the flop and the turn puts you with less than a potsized bet left which results in an easy shove.


 



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