[100NL] Preflop spot with JJ

No reads, just sat down. What to do?

Submitted by : beethreekay

POKERSTARS GAME #17378472892: HOLD'EM NO LIMIT ($0.50/$1.00) - 2008/05/12 - 12:58:18 (ET)
Table 'Opik' 6-max Seat #3 is the button
Seat 1: Azimut85 ($144.15 in chips)
Seat 2: U1isse ($122.85 in chips)
Seat 3: AFCA JJ ($18.50 in chips)
Seat 4: beethreekay ($99 in chips)
Seat 5: beta77 ($101 in chips)
Seat 6: lerantzs ($124 in chips)
beethreekay : posts small blind $0.50
beta77: posts big blind $1

Holecards
Dealt to beethreekay
lerantzs: folds
Azimut85: raises $3 to $4
U1isse: raises $10 to $14
AFCA JJ: folds
lerantzs leaves the table
beethreekay : ?

fold

Well you cant call and if you raise nobody is gonna put it in with worse when you just sat down, so fold.

vs unknown I'd assume his shove range if you 4b is QQ+, AK if you stove it I think your like 37%, so if you 4b and get it in you lose 26$ on average. So you need his range to be about 1/3rd premiums and 2/3rds weaker hands that he folds for a 4b to be profitable. NL100 players tend to be nits so this is probably a fold given that your UTG+1.

vs unknown I'd assume his shove range if you 4b is QQ+, AK if you stove it I think your like 37%, so if you 4b and get it in you lose 26$ on average. So you need his range to be about 1/3rd premiums and 2/3rds weaker hands that he folds for a 4b to be profitable. NL100 players tend to be nits so this is probably a fold given that your UTG+1.

i am new to poker and i have such a hard time understanding what anybody is saying. i've been reading the newbie guides in the articles section, and i use acronymfinder.com, liquidpoker's glossary, and wikipedia's poker jargon.

but what do all these terms mean?

4b, QQ+, AK, range, premiums, nits, and most importantly, utg+1

On May 13 2008 00:07 Polyphasic wrote: but what do all these terms mean? 4b, QQ+, AK, range, premiums, nits, and most importantly, utg+1

4 bet, at least pocket queens, Ace-King, likely cards your opponent holds, good hands, you, and the person who acts second during preflop play.

I think folding this is terrible. Decent regulars will pump this on the button with mediocre holdings because of positional advantage. I would actually get a little creative here and make a four bet to 32. It screams premium hand, and will likely scare off random shit from the button. You also can then fold to a shove, as I doubt AK or AQ would push given that move, especially at NL 100. Obv if the initial raiser pushes insta fold.

On May 13 2008 00:07 Polyphasic wrote: Show nested quote + vs unknown I'd assume his shove range if you 4b is QQ+, AK if you stove it I think your like 37%, so if you 4b and get it in you lose 26$ on average. So you need his range to be about 1/3rd premiums and 2/3rds weaker hands that he folds for a 4b to be profitable. NL100 players tend to be nits so this is probably a fold given that your UTG+1. i am new to poker and i have such a hard time understanding what anybody is saying. i've been reading the newbie guides in the articles section, and i use acronymfinder.com, liquidpoker's glossary, and wikipedia's poker jargon. but what do all these terms mean? 4b, QQ+, AK, range, premiums, nits, and most importantly, utg+1

4b - 4bet - a re-re-raise. if someone opens raise to say $4, and another raises to $14 (this is a 3bet), and you raise back AGAIN to $35 (this is the 4bet)
QQ+ - pocket Q's or better, which is QQ, KK, AA
AK - ace king
range - his possible holdings (he might have a set or a flush draw)
premiums - premium hands (AA/AK/etc)
nits - very tight players (play only premiums)
importantly, utg+1 - your position at the table - to the left of the big blind is called being under the gun (utg), you being the next seat across is under the gun +1 (utg+1)