Embarassing [NL100]

>_> Well, i might get flame for this but am really serious i seriously never know how to play those mid/low pocket in those kind of spot the villain is 69/24 so he has a wide range

Submitted by : Sennpu

***** Hand History for Game 7041260429 *****
$100 USD NL Texas Hold'em - Thursday, May 08, 21:24:33 ET 2008
Table Table 128034 (Real Money)
Seat 4 is the button
Total number of players : 6
Seat 1: Hero ( $182.60 USD )
Seat 2: Dan1133 ( $67.40 USD )
Seat 3: Sashkok ( $95.30 USD )
Seat 5: kareng13 ( $95 USD )
Seat 4: Youse11111 ( $105 USD )
Seat 6: ohlenma1 ( $60 USD )
kareng13 posts small blind [$0.50 USD].
ohlenma1 posts big blind [$1 USD].

Holecards
Dealt to Hero
Hero raises [$3.50 USD]
Dan1133 raises [$6 USD]
Sashkok folds .
Youse11111 folds .
kareng13 folds .
ohlenma1 folds .
Hero calls [$2.50 USD]

Flop (Pot : $13.50)

   
Hero checks .
Dan1133 bets [$10 USD]
Hero calls [$10 USD]

Turn (Pot : $33.50)

   
Hero checks .
Dan1133 bets [$20 USD]
Hero folds .
Dan1133 does not show cards .
Dan1133 wins $51.83 USD

image doesn't matter against a 69/24 drooler. just reraise preflop and get it in, he only has $67 to start the hand anyway and he's a maniac, or if you're gonna call at least minraise or something on the flop to induce something from a clear drooling donkey. and still as played, ship it all in.

also one thing you wanna consider in these spots is how you can induce him to do something stupid depending on the player, is it best to 4bet small and let him 5bet his a4o or whatever crapola he has? is it best to minraise the flop and let him shove his crap? is it best to just call and let him double barrel his entire range?

however with pocket tens, there are so many bad flops, bad turns and so on that trying to induce by calling down at any point is going to be risky which is why i would mostly prefer a small 4bet pf.

i'm truly amazed you folded this hand. this hand is near the top of your range, he's a 69/24 drooler and you're letting him run you over here.

AND he's not even fullstacked =[

i thought this was a question of how quickly can you get allin with that hand against him on this luxury flop, right? 69/24 isnt exactly the stats of someone you need to flop quads against to win the hand..

i raise him on flop and get it in.

TT is not a low or medium pocket pair ;p

It seems this hand put Midian on tilt and he kind of summed up everything. The turn is as dry as it gets for your TT, why do you call flop if you fold on this turn against pretty much any type of player, not mentioning a lagtard??? You put him on 85? And how can you consider having a lag image THEN folding this vs a 69/24 omfg....what purpose does your image serve then other then buffing up the rake?

If it wasn't for Midian I'd go on major monkey tilt as well reading this hand/topic.

67/24 WHAT

WUT

HOW

COULD

U

FOLD

AN

OVERPAIR

u can maybe fold if u've never seen him 3 bet someone over a largish sample

or if he's extremely passive and never bets out

still seems like ur waywaywway ahead of his range tho, i think u have to shove and turn off your monitor, then turn it back on 30 seconds later and see if ur hand held

he actually never 3bet'd =o before

he also havent been really aggressive before :/ which got me in a tough spot

sample size? if i've never seen him 3bet over a decent sample i'm folding the flop

On May 09 2008 10:04 Sennpu wrote: he also havent been really aggressive before :/ which got me in a tough spot

Don't withhold relevant infos like AF, 3 bet frequencies or sample size if you have them please ^^

there are people that call off 3/4 their stack pf then fold to a flop shove but NEVER 3 bet themselves without like QQ+/AQ+
but these types of players are quite uncommon so fuck it let's get the monies in. And if you actually do have a LAG image how the hell do you fold the top of your range here? there's a million worse hands villain will shove for value/bluff off to you.

and listen to most the comments in this thread about how to go about and stack this idiot.