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Submitted by : Zetsnotdead
***** Hand History for Game 1111111111 ***** Poker Stars
$10.00 USD PL Omaha - Thursday, May 10, 03:07:58 ET 2012
Table Seillier VII Real Money
Seat 4 is the button
Seat 1: Player1 $23.08 USD - VPIP: 35, PFR: 4, 3B: 0, AF: 1.0, Hands: 26
Seat 2: Player2 $24.69 USD - VPIP: 64, PFR: 5, 3B: 0, AF: 0.7, Hands: 22
Seat 3: Player3 $17.88 USD - VPIP: 63, PFR: 16, 3B: 17, AF: 0.0, Hands: 19
Seat 4: Hero $38.69 USD - VPIP: 32, PFR: 22, 3B: 8, AF: 5.2, Hands: 972
Seat 5: Player5 $9.13 USD - VPIP: 17, PFR: 8, 3B: 0, AF: 0.6, Hands: 24
Seat 6: Player6 $41.93 USD - VPIP: 100, PFR: 55, 3B: 33, AF: 2.3, Hands: 22
Player5 posts small blind [$0.05 USD].
Player6 posts big blind [$0.10 USD].
Player1 posts ante of [$0.02 USD].
Player2 posts ante of [$0.02 USD].
Player3 posts ante of [$0.02 USD].
Hero posts ante of [$0.02 USD].
Player5 posts ante of [$0.02 USD].
Player6 posts ante of [$0.02 USD].
Holecards
Dealt to Hero [    ]
Player1 folds
Player2 calls [$0.10 USD]
Player3 calls [$0.10 USD]
Hero calls [$0.10 USD]
Player5 raises [$0.67 USD]
Player6 calls [$0.62 USD]
Player2 folds
Player3 folds
Hero calls [$0.62 USD]
Flop (Pot : $2.31)
  
Player5 checks
Player6 bets [$2.10 USD]
Hero raises [$7.20 USD]
Player5 folds
Player6 calls [$5.10 USD]
Turn (Pot : $16.71)
Player6 checks
Hero bets [$10.10 USD]
Player6 raises [$33.99 USD]
Hero calls [$20.65 USD]
Player6 wins $3.24 USD
I overlimped the BTN, because of my suited Ax. After player 5 raised I put him on very strong range (8% pfr, plus he's raising from sb after 3 limps) and I was gonna fold, but given that player 6 called (aggro donk, we are 400x deep and I'm in position) I decided to call. Is that any good ?
Post flop player 5 checked so I put him on missed broadways, and than player 6 bets. He had 100% bet vs missd cbet after 4 occassions, so I think he is full of shit most of the time. Do you like my raise ? I'm just trying to make him fold his air hands.
After he called I put him on a pretty wide range of hands. Probably stuff like tp, flushdraws, weakoverpairs etc, so I guess betting the turn with nut 4 would be insanely profitable. What do I do after he shoves? I mean I kinda wanna snap call, but its 400bbs effective and its pretty hard for him to have worse 4x, because he would have to bet/call the flop with just mid pair. I gues he can have stuff like 4x+fd that he peeled on the flop.
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KoeBawlt Canada. May 10 2012 16:18. Posts 343 | | |
fwiw I'm terrible at omaha and bad at holdem so what I post is more for my learning experience than yours
If he's an aggro donk you can find much better spots, for example when you have a decent amount of equity like flush and straight draws. Also, I think a lot of aggro donks give up or spazz out so when he calls you on flop it looks like he has something he likes. The call on flop and check on turn don't look like random spazzy air but looks more like he's got a piece. One thing that makes a lot of sense is a 2pr on flop like 43 or 94 hoping to show down, then a check on turn to get you to do exactly what you did. It's also possible that he could do this with 33 or 99, you don't exactly have a lot of hands on him.
I think you should check behind turn and I don't know what to do on the river |
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I am pretty sure that checking the turn is not an option versus this particular opponent. I mean even after only 22 hands, you can tell that 100 vpip, 50 pfr and 33% 3bet is very aggro and bad.
I also think that putting him on set after the flop action is bad. He would pretty much always 3bet that on the flop. He might also 3bet his 2 pair hands given how aggro he is, but even if he has 2 pairs in his range they make up of a very small % of his entire range. He can have pretty much any 9x, any overpair, any flushdraw, some weak str8 draws etc. |
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KoeBawlt Canada. May 10 2012 19:15. Posts 343 | | |
Then it seems you must call
-e- So to clarify for myself, you are betting to induce on the turn? |
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'He can have pretty much any 9x, any overpair, any flushdraw, some weak str8 draws etc.'
I was refering to his range after flating my flop raise, not after he shoved over my turn bet.
-e- So to clarify for myself, you are betting to induce on the turn?
I'm just valuebetting, because I expect to be ahead a big % of the time. I think he would call me with a lot of worse hands. I also prevent him form seeing the river which is cool, given the fact that my hand is vurneable. I didn't really expect to get shoved on often, but looking back at this hand I think that after I bet I don't really have any other option than to call it off vs this player description. |
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gos . May 10 2012 23:25. Posts 86 | | |
shove with bible in hand. |
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InsideMan United Kingdom. May 11 2012 04:52. Posts 158 | | |
I think your preflop play is fine given that you have the button and you are deep with a weak player. Given your read, flop seems ok as villain has been playing all of his hands so far. Personally I'd prefer to just tighten up against him and just make bets and raises for value (or trap when applicable).
On the turn you are putting in a lot of money, but the SPR is 2 and you have a fairly strong hand against this opponent. I can't see myself bet/folding the turn in these games against a somewhat maniacal opponent. I think he can be doing this with any 4 and sometimes with draws. |
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Flop seems really bad to me.
As played I guess it's a push and pray situation. I think he has enough stupid shit for this to be ok. |
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